Match Day Thread Stoke vs QPR

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You don't need drugs. It's just logic. Rather than emotion.
The logical thing would be for us to take 1 of the 4 opportunities we've had to move out of the bottom 3 ! Yet we've played turd in all of them despite being in great form according to you. What's your explanation for that ?
 
Rubbish. It's not 'keeping' us bottom 3. Other results and our past results have us there.

In the form table, we're in the top half. All we have to do is continue current form and we'll float out.

We have greatly improved under Cifuentes. What else do you want?

I feel some fans aren't looking realistically at the situation.

Unfortunately for us, Stoke turned up today and looked like a good team. They have a lot of good players and have just been under bad form. Today, they woke up.

I wouldn't say we made it especially easy for them. They didn't have that many chances. Goal from a big header.

Be objective and look at the table, now we're 4 points off safety, roughly where we were at Christmas give or take

Our form is 'ok' and some teams above us worse but they have a couple of wins / 6 or so points advantage over us.

Carrying on like this it's not going to be enough

Our goal difference is the major positive for me, it might come down to that at the end

And no, its not rubbish, it's factual
 
Bloody hell <doh>

Under Ainsworth, we were the Championship bitch.

We were all begging for an improvement in form but we're many points off of getting out of the bottom three.

Along comes Cifuentes and puts us into the top half of the form table consistently.

On an unbeaten run of 4 games, with 2 wins out of those four. He gets a 1-0 loss in a tough away game on a Wednesday night.

Fans lose their rag at him.

<doh>

Nobody's saying we should have stuck with Ainsworth.

This wasn't a tough away game. With proper team selection and motivated players, this should have been a gimme win against a very poor side .
 
I just don't understand how we can draw with Norwich, a team better than Stoke by several orders of magnitude then this.

What is the explanation?
That's the most disappointing thing tonight, seemed to be improving and then that total rabbit in the headlights performance...none of the new lads made any difference either. Only saving grace is I have no idea which team will turn up for the next game and overall I have to concede that we're better than we were, is it enough? I'm not sure
 
That's 2 hours of my life i won't get back......

We started well and looked the better side, but we gave them belief by not forcing the issue..... remember they had 2 wins in 18 games and we allowed them back into the game by taking foot off the peddle....... Armstrong was too isolated up front and then got bullied out the game..... he needs to man up and give as good as he gets.......

Our creativity in midfield was non existent 2nd half and our delivery from out wide was appalling, but then we weren't getting bodies into the box anyway........

For all the huff and puff 2nd half their I can't recall their keeper having to make a save 2nd half......... we didn't create 1 clear cut chance....

5 chances to get out bottom 3 and we've fecked them all up......

Only positive is that Millwall are in free fall and are giving us a sniff of a chance to get out of the sh1te......

We were our old Charity Park Rangers tonight.....
 
Be objective and look at the table, now we're 4 points off safety, roughly where we were at Christmas give or take

Our form is 'ok' and some teams above us worse but they have a couple of wins / 6 or so points advantage over us.

Carrying on like this it's not going to be enough

Our goal difference is the major positive for me, it might come down to that at the end

And no, its not rubbish, it's factual
This is where you're misunderstanding me. I'm not guaranteeing we'll survive relegation.

But our manager's form is mid table or just above mid table. It's likely that we'd be mid table if he'd been our manager at the start of the season. Yet some fans are piling in on him. He's clearly a decent manager who came into a difficult situation in a country he hasn't managed in.

Some of you lot don't deserve him.

We were the WORST team in the division. Now we're clearly not. There's still a lot of games to go and definitely teams who are starting to struggle.

We're not struggling for form. We're coming from a crap position to start with. Is it too late? Who can tell.
 
There is so much hope riding on this game and we all want a win so badly that I am not looking forward to coming on this board tomorrow. If we lose!!
QPR, if you don't want a mass suicide on this board and in W12 on your hands, WIN the bl**dy game!
If I don't hear from some of you again or vice versa have a nice after life.
There is so much hope riding on this game and we all want a win so badly that I am not looking forward to coming on this board tomorrow. If we lose!!
QPR, if you don't want a mass suicide on this board and in W12 on your hands, WIN the bl**dy game!
If I don't hear from some of you again or vice versa have a nice after life.

Hara Kiri mat cleaned-up, sword sharpened and polished, all ready to go. <yikes>
 
This is where you're misunderstanding me. I'm not guaranteeing we'll survive relegation.

But our manager's form is mid table or just above mid table. It's likely that we'd be mid table if he'd been our manager at the start of the season. Yet some fans are piling in on him. He's clearly a decent manager who came into a difficult situation in a country he hasn't managed in.

Some of you lot don't deserve him.

We were the WORST team in the division. Now we're clearly not. There's still a lot of games to go and definitely teams who are starting to struggle.

We're not struggling for form. We're coming from a crap position to start with. Is it too late? Who can tell.

We played like the worst team in the division tonight, in what was close to being a must win game. Not good enough.
 
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Nobody's saying we should have stuck with Ainsworth.

This wasn't a tough away game. With proper team selection and motivated players, this should have been a gimme win against a very poor side .
This is the championship. Pretty much every game can be a tough game if the team decides to then up.

I know what their form was. But they have a good squad and turned up today. Their manager looked like he was ****ting at 1-0, probably knowing his job was on the line. They stepped up.

Their passing was excellent, especially penetrative, attacking passes. They were committed and put in full effort. They defender well and broke well. Several of their players were on good form.

I don't care what a team's form is, it's all to play for on the day.
 
We played like the worst team in the division tonight, in what was close to being a must win game. Not good enough.
We did not play like the worst team in the division. We had our chances. We had some passages of good play. You're just emotional.
 
This is where you're misunderstanding me. I'm not guaranteeing we'll survive relegation.

But our manager's form is mid table or just above mid table. It's likely that we'd be mid table if he'd been our manager at the start of the season. Yet some fans are piling in on him. He's clearly a decent manager who came into a difficult situation in a country he hasn't managed in.

Some of you lot don't deserve him.

We were the WORST team in the division. Now we're clearly not. There's still a lot of games to go and definitely teams who are starting to struggle.

We're not struggling for form. We're coming from a crap position to start with. Is it too late? Who can tell.

Loving your.optimism...wish it would.brush off on the players though.

The next fourteen games are all gonna be cup finals, and we'll all be watching fron behind the sofa if tonight is anything to go by.

It's not going to be fun.....
 
We did not play like the worst team in the division. We had our chances. We had some passages of good play. You're just emotional.

No, I'm just rational. We were awful again. Too many dismal performances under Cifuentes.
 
This is the championship. Pretty much every game can be a tough game if the team decides to then up.

I know what their form was. But they have a good squad and turned up today. Their manager looked like he was ****ting at 1-0, probably knowing his job was on the line. They stepped up.

Their passing was excellent, especially penetrative, attacking passes. They were committed and put in full effort. They defender well and broke well. Several of their players were on good form.

I don't care what a team's form is, it's all to play for on the day.
It wasn’t a tough game. Stoke were ****ing awful and we managed to be even worse. None of them looked like professional footballers. Literally falling over the ball.
 
The gap is widening and the teams within our reach reducing, that's the reality

Stoke are now 6 points above us, Huddersfield 5 points

That's a couple of wins assuming they don't pick up any points

Blackburn and Birmingham looking hard to reach again

Meanwhile we've played 32 games and won 7

Now suddenly we are going to spring half of our previous wins in 3 or 4 games?

It's narrowing rapidly and we are not closing the gap

Cifuentes needs to stop fannying about and stop us shipping goals. The one thing Warnock always did was tighten the defence, aim for 1 point minimum

We are abysmal at set pieces and it's costing us
 
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Cifuentes needs to stop fannying about and stop us shipping goals. The one thing Warnock always did was tighten the defence, aim for 1 point minimum

We are abysmal at set pieces and it's costing us

Warnock isn't our manager though, so it'a pointless getting into guessing games as to what would have happened if we'd appointed him (although he'd still never have replied to Uber...)
 
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Shockingly poor performance. Armstrong completely isolated without any support but still spends too much time moaning and throwing his arms up in frustration. Which led to us conceding the corner for the goal.
But to not create a single chance in the second half in such an important game is unforgivable.
 
That was a pretty spineless performance, stoke seemed to be up for it but we weren’t but should’ve been,didn’t see this result coming, gutted as that was our chance & blew it