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I asked this before on our board but no-one knew, if 1 of the Manchester club's win the Europa, will that throw up an extra Euro spot? If it does, there is a chance we could both be in Europe next season.

Don't think it does, but I couldn't say I was confident in that position. If you are really bothered then the uefa website maybe worth a look.
 
Over the MON:2448349 said:
Or the break of the season will stop the momentum of this new managerial honeymoon. You will be improved but it certainly won tbe as prolific as this honeymoon period has been

Its been a long honeymoon. Any you are only placed so highly on luck are you?


Thought not.

Well that was your rabbles excuse at the start of the season, we were lucky, the bubble would burst, we would plummet down the table. Whats sauce for the goose and all that.

Our bubble has in a way burst but not explosively. We havent plummeted, results have just tailed off but are still very respectable, yours will probably follow a similar path. Thats what I was getting at
 
Well I just said it will be interesting next season. The gap has obviously closed now we have O'Neill and every Sunderland supporter is just glad to see the back of the fat geordie fool.
 
We started under the massive handicap of Bruce. O'Neill has gained 26 points from 13 league games. If he was appointed at start of the season at that points ratio. Sunderland would be in the top 4. I kid you not. This season has really been written off because of Bruce but next season under Martin might be interesting.

<laugh>!
 
All I said was next season might be interesting pouch. This season may have an intriguing end to it yet with Pardew's increasingly odd behaviour suggesting he is going into meltdown ala keegan.
 
Pardew may have over excited on derby day (not a bad thing) but only one manager has suffered a little ranting meltdown since. Maybe the win over Liverpool will put him back on an even keel. His earlier rant had all the hallmarks of Steve Bruce. It was very entertaining though to see him so upset. He should have been pleased with the draw in a game they were 2nd best, and should certyainly be old enough to avoid taking Pardews bait on being a dirty team.

Every season is interesting for me. Football has a funny way of slapping folk in the face so you'll get no bold predictions. Look at your fans telling us we'd be relegated, you'd get into Europe via the league, and its ended up we've been the much better team this season. Football is far from predictable.

I was merely laughing at the suggestion that O'Neill could have had you in 4th spot had he had the whole season. I assumed you were cracking a gag and found it funny.
 
All I said was next season might be interesting pouch. This season may have an intriguing end to it yet with Pardew's increasingly odd behaviour suggesting he is going into meltdown ala keegan.

I think the suggestion that you wuld have averaged 2 points a game for the whole season if MON had been in charge is a bit unrealistic. We started off with that sort of average for a dozen games or so. It is very hard to mantain. Not many clubs get 76 points ove a season.

If your point is that there isn't much between our two clubs at the moment, or that next season will be interesting, no argument there. Unless you manage to make the FA Cup finals, I think we're going to have a better season than you this year by any yardstick. Next year will be a clean slate
 
Pardew may have over excited on derby day (not a bad thing) but only one manager has suffered a little ranting meltdown since. Maybe the win over Liverpool will put him back on an even keel. His earlier rant had all the hallmarks of Steve Bruce. It was very entertaining though to see him so upset. He should have been pleased with the draw in a game they were 2nd best, and should certyainly be old enough to avoid taking Pardews bait on being a dirty team.

Keep telling yourself that and you might even eventually convince yourself.
 
Exactly over the Mon. Pardew is close to losing it with his bizarre actions.

Are there any bizarre actions aside from those on the derby touchline ?

That was an odd day that did little to enhance anyone's reputation (except Shola's) but we've moved on from that
 
Going into the dressing room to complain about rough tackling . PS I am still waiting to see what the fuss about Tiote is about, the most over rated player ever
 
PS I am still waiting to see what the fuss about Tiote is about, the most over rated player ever

Cattermole is better, obviously.

Its probably hard for you to see Tiote's qualities when he is so lacking in all areas when compared to a defensive midfield great like Lee Cattermole.
 
I think I missed something regarding Pardew's behaviour in the derby. From what I saw and gather, he celebrated fairly exuberantly when his team won a penalty.
O'Neill looked well annoyed when the referee awarded Sunderland there's didn't he?

Since when has Pardew's celebrations been a crime anyway? It wasn't a contentious, fortuitous penalty either &#8211; Ameobi was chopped down clumsily in the box, it was a nailed on decision that the player WON.

Given that this was perhaps the third decent penalty shout that was finally given I can understand his frustration bubbling up this way.

If you want a more desperate show of emotion from a manager, go watch Doubtfire Brucie celebrating like he'd won the world cup when Gyan fluked his derby leveller last season!

I thought Alan was over gracious to call his reaction a tad OTT, but Martin O'Neill (a manager most have always respected) let himself down BIG time with the post-match press conference hissy fits...
 
Whatever o neill said to sunderland echo it's better than going to see ref at half time about rough tackling awww. Cattermole is not the best but he and gardner totally dominated Tiote and Cabaye whilst it was 11vs 11. The facts are Ashley is tring to big up Tiote to flog him but no clubs are biting they see thru it. PS You were really unlucky last night considering you were playing with ten men, goal aside Ben Arfa done nothing let player after player run past him. I have never seen a player so easily beaten, on the other hand going forward he looked very good but he's a luxury player, imo.
 
Whatever o neill said to sunderland echo it's better than going to see ref at half time about rough tackling awww. Cattermole is not the best but he and gardner totally dominated Tiote and Cabaye whilst it was 11vs 11. The facts are Ashley is tring to big up Tiote to flog him but no clubs are biting they see thru it. PS You were really unlucky last night considering you were playing with ten men, goal aside Ben Arfa done nothing let player after player run past him. I have never seen a player so easily beaten, on the other hand going forward he looked very good but he's a luxury player, imo.

Its entertaining to tell porkies isn't it? Your totting up of the numbers is a little worrying though. You do realise Sessegnon was playing in midfield for a large part of the game. I'm starting to doubt you're even a Sunderland fan with this kind of knowledge. I can correct this for you quite quickly though. Cabaye and Tiote were 2nd best to the Sunderland midfield 3 for 35mins-40mins. For the next 20mins Tiote monstered all three single handedly. Sessegnon got frustrated that one man was beasting three and struck out. Tiote continued to monster the remaining two for the last half hour.

And O'Neill is a big girls blouse who had KK esque meltdown. Welcome to the derby Martin.
 
Sess was surrounded by 3 newc players who just could not get the ball off him prior to sending off . Tiote was kicking at his heels before sess decked the softest hard man ever to have played the game, Cowardly tackling from behind is Tiotes game face facts.
 
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