Spurlock's Ramadan diary

[thefanwithnoname]

No, none of the Muslims that I know do that.
Disrupted sleep, a bit of mild dehydration and general tiredness, really.

i may have just taken your initial post literally

As a muslim i find there are 2 types of people in ramadhan

1 those who are generally practicing and see ramadhan as a bonus month, so yes they do get some of the symptoms you describe but love it overall

2 those who put their usual life on hold for 29//30 days which didnt involve practising bar the odd friday prayer here and there. they use the month to sleep during the day and pig out at night all the time grumbling how hard muslim life is

 

[Highburyal]

Where is the fun in that bro?

Keep it normal

Bar the extra ibaadah

oh god we have another jihadi in the house!

I generally work from home 3-4 days a week anyway so it wouldn't really be any different in that sense. I prefer the solitude and reflection during this time of the year to be honest, time away from work as much as possible and spend with family, kids and Ramadan stuff...

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

i may have just taken your initial post literally

As a muslim i find there are 2 types of people in ramadhan

1 those who are generally practicing and see ramadhan as a bonus month, so yes they do get some of the symptoms you describe but love it overall

2 those who put their usual life on hold for 29//30 days which didnt involve practising bar the odd friday prayer here and there. they use the month to sleep during the day and pig out at night all the time grumbling how hard muslim life is

Oh, ok. I know lots of 1s and no 2s, then.
Those that come close to 2 just try to avoid being noticed and cheat, I think!

Any Muslims that I know that don't really practice properly are just trying to avoid upsetting their families, really.
It's easier to just pay lip service than leave completely, I think.
Probably not how I'd handle it, but I'm a belligerent bastard, as you know.

 

[Highburyal]

I was trying to write a response, but Spurlock's summed up my experience of it very well.
It's a unifying experience for the community, but it's a testing one individually, too.
That seems like the point, to someone who hasn't experienced it themselves.

depends on people but generally non-muslims won't last long and I know some have tried as a bit of a fun thing to do with us but because they don't have that conviction, belief or care, they eventually give up.

it's a testing one for sure and thats when you need to keep yourself in check the most.

 

[Highburyal]

Oh, ok. I know lots of 1s and no 2s, then.
Those that come close to 2 just try to avoid being noticed and cheat, I think!

Any Muslims that I know that don't really practice properly are just trying to avoid upsetting their families, really.
It's easier to just pay lip service than leave completely, I think.
Probably not how I'd handle it, but I'm a belligerent bastard, as you know.

lot of the ones you talk about are not paying lip service per say, the ones that leave do so and generally don't hide and not many care what they do to be honest.

But there are those that believe it to be right but keep delaying the inevitable and think they will reform and be a better Muslim sometime in future...death reforms those of us who don't reform in time...each to their own I guess.

 

[Spurlock]

and he's off...whole fackin month of this.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

lot of the ones you talk about are not paying lip service per say, the ones that leave do so and generally don't hide and not many care what they do to be honest.

But there are those that believe it to be right but keep delaying the inevitable and think they will reform and be a better Muslim sometime in future...death reforms those of us who don't reform in time...each to their own I guess.

I'm literally talking about people that I know personally.
I know quite a few Catholics with the same mentality, too.
They don't want to risk shaming their family or pissing off older relatives, generally speaking.

 

[Highburyal]

I'm literally talking about people that I know personally.
I know quite a few Catholics with the same mentality, too.
They don't want to risk shaming their family or pissing off older relatives, generally speaking.

they need to man up and say they don't believe...no compulsion in religion, they need to understand and their family.

 

[Highburyal]

I'm literally talking about people that I know personally.
I know quite a few Catholics with the same mentality, too.
They don't want to risk shaming their family or pissing off older relatives, generally speaking.

they need to man up and say they don't believe...no compulsion in religion, they need to understand and their family.

 

[Highburyal]

and he's off...whole fackin month of this.

Then reform you Dirty Spud

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

they need to man up and say they don't believe...no compulsion in religion, they need to understand and their family.

And how would they benefit from this, exactly? I'm not disagreeing with you, by the way.

 

[Highburyal]

In my house we ban a pakora, samosa and that type of stuff during ramadhan

It's dates and water followed by fruit, maghrib then something simple. So a stew and mash

Used to be dates water fruit kebabs samosa pakora Asian pilau etc. And pass out virtually and be 2 Stine heavier at the end of ramadhan


On a serious not all the fried stuff makes you thirsty the next day and that's ia the struggle

Dates and milk smoothie is the best for breaking fast....keeps the sunnah and gives you the required nourishment after a long day.

 

[Spurlock]

they need to man up and say they don't believe...no compulsion in religion, they need to understand and their family.

As much as I agree with the sentiment and the phrase 'there is no compulsion' in religion, taken from the saying of the Prophet, I'm afraid you talk of an idyllic world. There's a lot of people that don't take it well and take it upon themselves to make an individual's life very difficult however their small mind may see fit. Either you are just being defensive or you are seriously naive.

 

[Highburyal]

And how would they benefit from this, exactly? I'm not disagreeing with you, by the way.

The benefit would be no false pretence...

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

The benefit would be no false pretence...

So not a lot, then? Would you risk basically everything for that?
It's not a position I've ever been in, so I'm not going to judge anyone for not doing it.

 

[Highburyal]

As much as I agree with the sentiment and the phrase 'there is no compulsion' in religion, taken from the saying of the Prophet. I'm afraid you talk of an idyllic world. There's a lot of people that don't take it well and take it upon themselves to Make an individual's life very difficult. Either you are just being defensive or you are seriously naive.

I am being neither, hence why I said both both sides need to realise this and move on, the saying is not from the prophet (pbuh) it's actually a verse from the Qur'an.

The problem is pick and choose from lot of people a and when it suits them without any real understanding of the subject matter. The ones that leave at times antagonise the others too and vice versa..

 

[Highburyal]

So not a lot, then? Would you risk basically everything for that?
It's not a position I've ever been in, so I'm not going to judge anyone for not doing it.

Depends on the conviction of your belief, you may or may not lose everything and it goes both ways.

I know there a muslims from other faiths or cultures who have lost everything because of their new faith and their convictions strong enough to not put up a false pretence.

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Dates and milk smoothie is the best for breaking fast....keeps the sunnah and gives you the required nourishment after a long day.

Don't do the smoothie thing

Straight up dates and water

Ibtry and buy different types if dates too, really like the fresh green vine ones

 

[thefanwithnoname]

I am being neither, hence why I said both both sides need to realise this and move on, the saying is not from the prophet (pbuh) it's actually a verse from the Qur'an.

The problem is pick and choose from lot of people a and when it suits them without any real understanding of the subject matter. The ones that leave at times antagonise the others too and vice versa..

Nothing worse than an ex Muslim or ex smoker. (Should say ex religious person)

Blah friggin blah

See that hirsi woman ffs agenda much?

 

[thefanwithnoname]

So not a lot, then? Would you risk basically everything for that?
It's not a position I've ever been in, so I'm not going to judge anyone for not doing it.

Tbf no pretence is a pretty big deal for me personally

O look at someone like RVP who went through the whole becoming Muslim to marry his Mrs, even giving Islamic names to the kids etc but they are clearly not "believers" so why pretend?

If I was going to marry a woman who didn't practise but then put that kind of condition on marriage I wouldn't marry her.