Southgate's done one...

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having read most of the comments on here, my view on the tournament and why we didn't win it appear to differ from most. we got to the final, fact. we had our share of luck and the number of times we snatched victory from the jaws of defeat was unreal.

we've watched southgate's england glide almost effortlessly through qualification for eight years. most of those games were against teams we shoud have been demolishing, and often we did.

in this tournament, we were suddenly without players and without players doing what we know they can do. kane looked knackered. before being taken off in one game, he looked to me like he was hobbling. he clearly needs a break, or a replacement, but he wasn't as he should have been. similar with bellingham. he looked worn out. and there were others in the same boat. england may not have missed maguire defensively, but they definitely missed him for set-pieces. the england team generally looked fatigued. i don't know why. tough season, maybe. even as a regular at city games for more than 20 years, i still needed the 3 months between seasons to empty my head out before gaining new enthusiasm for the coming season.

i can't be bothered to watch club football, other than city's goals on sky sports after a match, so i don't know how players like foden do for their clubs. i do know there are england players who i wouldn't pick for a club side. one of those would be kalvin phillips, mercifully omitted. grealish might well be a great lad, but for all his alleged skills, rarely makes anything happen, as the man city manager has twigged.

in eight years, southgate's system has brought us a higher level of success, but it's not a system i like. i don't like the lone striker notion at all and i don't like england's faffing about at the back system. i didn't like hull city adopting much the same system. in both cases, that system did appear to improve results. all that said, it wasn't the system that messed us up in the euros, but not getting from most of the players what they've previously delivered regularly.

 

[springtiger]

Read my entry yesterday , it’s nearly all about technical ability and being comfortable with the ball , ease of mobility and good touch . Several of our ‘good’ players are mildly heavy and cumbersome great for the Prem and fine in a team of foreigners but as a collective not good enough . Look at Omur for instance he’s got the balance and mobility you want and he can’t get in Turkeys team , possibly down to a bit if height or lack of pace . Palmer for me is the most intelligent ‘ Spanish’ player we have .

 

[Edelman]

Read my entry yesterday , it’s nearly all about technical ability and being comfortable with the ball , ease of mobility and good touch . Several of our ‘good’ players are mildly heavy and cumbersome great for the Prem and fine in a team of foreigners but as a collective not good enough . Look at Omur for instance he’s got the balance and mobility you want and he can’t get in Turkeys team , possibly down to a bit if height or lack of pace . Palmer for me is the most intelligent ‘ Spanish’ player we have .

No surprise he came through the Man City system .
Not sure why they got rid maybe the FFP ?

 

[Edelman]

Whoever the next manager is needs to start by taking the Nations League seriously !
I agree with what somebody said earlier maybe we will benefit from having a harder path the the World cup in USA .

 

[PLT]

Read my entry yesterday , it’s nearly all about technical ability and being comfortable with the ball , ease of mobility and good touch . Several of our ‘good’ players are mildly heavy and cumbersome great for the Prem and fine in a team of foreigners but as a collective not good enough . Look at Omur for instance he’s got the balance and mobility you want and he can’t get in Turkeys team , possibly down to a bit if height or lack of pace . Palmer for me is the most intelligent ‘ Spanish’ player we have .

Good point about Ömür. Another one is Dan Crowley. When he was here he was obviously a cut above the rest of the squad in terms of touch and comfort on the ball. Yet he didn't really make an impact and was last playing in League 2 I think. Do we let players like that slip through the cracks in this country?

 

[springtiger]

I think we do , we look for physicality or exceptional skill , the exceptional ones make it but those with v good skills but maybe not strong are probably discarded. Personally from a young age we should make ball control and movement the absolute focus - why not look at the latins youth training to see what gives ? These days winning tackles is almost unecessary , but passing east under pressure should be critical . What do I know though ? LOL we can have all the selection the best the players the best but in a final I think it would be touch and go if we could beat a Spain etc

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

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[originallambrettaman]

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England Men's Senior Team Head Coach (NFCSGP0377)

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[GEvans76]

Lee Carsley given the job on an interim basis will be in charge for the Nation League Campaign.
Hope he does enough to get the job.

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

Foriners never do well as England managers.

Think Juan Gordon Erikson.

And Fabien Capapello.



Pity we couldn't find an Englisher.


The FA aren't listening to the room of the Nation.

 

[Frank Fingers]

It will be interesting to see how we perform after Southgate, Prior to him, we were **** for decades. Do we return to being **** again or were there other factors that coincided/were instigated during his reign?

As someone who has little interest in EPL or indeed International footbal (not heard of some of the team)l, it really looks like we have a breadth of young English talent being produced by the larger EPL teams. 20 years ago, the issue was that foreign stars forced out the English youngsters.

Is our success down to the monster that is the EPL and not Southgate?

Having said that, giving his record its still incredible that people constantly slate him. It maybe that history shows him in a better light, a bit like Bobby Robson who was mostly vilified during his tenure as England manager.

 

[Cityzen]

It will be interesting to see how we perform after Southgate, Prior to him, we were **** for decades. Do we return to being **** again or were there other factors that coincided/were instigated during his reign?

As someone who has little interest in EPL or indeed International footbal (not heard of some of the team)l, it really looks like we have a breadth of young English talent being produced by the larger EPL teams. 20 years ago, the issue was that foreign stars forced out the English youngsters.

Is our success down to the monster that is the EPL and not Southgate?

Having said that, giving his record its still incredible that people constantly slate him. It maybe that history shows him in a better light, a bit like Bobby Robson who was mostly vilified during his tenure as England manager.

A lot it down to St George’s Park and altering the way things were done from a younger age and bringing them through. And Southgate and Carsley played a part in that. It got overlooked by the media in their frenzy over the Lionesses but the younger England teams had success on the international stage.
Far from it being an EPL thing an article showed how many of the England squad at Euro 24 has started at or spent time at clubs in lower leagues. The EPL may have polished them but the article pointed out the importance of the lower leagues to both the EPL and the England team. Worth remembering that in the 1970s when there was only a handful of foreigners playing here we failed to qualify for the 1972 Euros, 1974 World Cup, the 1976 Euros or the 1978 World Cup. Unfortunately though not classified as foreigners every successful team had a good number of Scots in and a fair few Welsh players. A GB team would have been in a shout in every competition then. Now the Scots wouldn't get a look in.