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Don't mind Southgate as a person. But he's made himself look as soppy as a sack here. Should have done an Eddie Howe and kept schtum. Hes not up to his neck in it like Howe is so something along the lines of 'It is my job to prepare our national football team for competitive football matches, no matter where they send us to play. Any talk of boycott would be down to my bosses at the FA.' Howe chose his bosses, Southgate didn't choose the location.

That's my problem with what he's said.

He's actively minimising the situation by virtually saying,' Yes there are problems but not bad enough for me to condemn them'.

Honestly, wtf does this even mean ....

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
 
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As I suspected Southgate has just confirmed several European countries are talking about how they can work together during the competition to make a positive difference. It would be really good to see every European team on the same page throughout and force FIFA snd Qatar to recognise and respomd.
 
Quite a lot to agree with in the thread... It does appear that people are picking which 'parts' of the worldwide abuse they want to side with... Countries decided not to play Russia before the governing body decided to step in yet here we have the most blatant 'take the money and turn a blind eye' sport has ever seen... As said earlier, it is about time that those with money in sport and can have some influence started to say 'feck the money' and did the right thing, only then might we see some changes.
 
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That's my problem with what he's said.

He's actively minimising the situation by virtually saying,' Yes there are problems but not bad enough for me to condemn them'.

Honestly, wtf does this even mean ....

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."

Right time for who? For him, his job security and his bank balance no doubt. The right time would have been a decade ago. However, to be fair to any high profile person being the first to stick their head over the trench. The fear of getting it swiped off with a curvy sword would stop me doing it.
 
Be interesting to see how the BBC & ITVs female football experts are welcomed. Will they be segregated from the male experts, will they be forced to dress in the oppressive ways they have enforced for their own citizens ? It stinks to high heaven that this World Cup will be held there. All about money again. FIFA has sold its soul to the devil

They, and I imagine all visitors will be treat well. The problem is, it's just an act to appease wealthy foreigners and try to get them further involved with the Qataris, saudis, russians etc

All the while they still treat 'their' people however they please.
 
That's my problem with what he's said.

He's actively minimising the situation by virtually saying,' Yes there are problems but not bad enough for me to condemn them'.

Honestly, wtf does this even mean ....

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
Shouldn't world leaders, such as our own buffoon of a PM be the ones condemning Qatari human rights? Rather than a bloke who coaches a football team. What is he supposed to say? Is he supposed to resign unless the FA forfeits our place at the finals?
 
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Shouldn't world leaders, such as our own buffoon of a PM be the ones condemning Qatari human rights? Rather than a bloke who coaches a football team. What is he supposed to say? Is he supposed to resign unless the FA forfeits our place at the finals?
this is my point really, the decision was made to go to Qatar years before Southgate was part of the England set-up, so I don't blame him at all.
 
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Playing garbage to be fair. Be switched to the boxing soon as it starts
 
Watch us do something Sunderlandish and go and win the one World Cup no one agrees should happen.
 
Shouldn't world leaders, such as our own buffoon of a PM be the ones condemning Qatari human rights? Rather than a bloke who coaches a football team. What is he supposed to say? Is he supposed to resign unless the FA forfeits our place at the finals?

My point is that what he's said was worse than saying nothing at all.
 
this is my point really, the decision was made to go to Qatar years before Southgate was part of the England set-up, so I don't blame him at all.

I'm not blaming him for anything other than the comments in the article I posted. I've no idea what he means with one particular comment, perhaps someone could explain.

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
 
I'm not blaming him for anything other than the comments in the article I posted. I've no idea what he means with one particular comment, perhaps someone could explain.

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
Presumably what we've discussed on this thread, wait until the tournament starts and speak out to a worldwide audience, I don't think it could be any clearer.
 
I'm not blaming him for anything other than the comments in the article I posted. I've no idea what he means with one particular comment, perhaps someone could explain.

"We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."

Probably wait till we get knocked out then say we'll this shouldn't have happened anyway so we dont care
 
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I'd be sending an all gay team, if there is one, ask them to play in some flamboyant strip, encourage them to passionately celebrate every throw in and free kick they are awarded, and give them a heroe's welcome when they come home.
 
i have no idea what southgate meant with that sentence, smug...it sounds as if they all might have something planned but my guess would be that they are happy enough to get a free holiday over there and a nice bonus to the bank account.

my own view is that anyone who has 'taken the knee' and actually felt strongly about the statement it is supposed to make, cannot possibly take part without making themselves to be hypocrites...unless of course, they have all been doing it just to 'look the part' and none of them really care about equality.
 
i have no idea what southgate meant with that sentence, smug...it sounds as if they all might have something planned but my guess would be that they are happy enough to get a free holiday over there and a nice bonus to the bank account.

my own view is that anyone who has 'taken the knee' and actually felt strongly about the statement it is supposed to make, cannot possibly take part without making themselves to be hypocrites...unless of course, they have all been doing it just to 'look the part' and none of them really care about equality.

In all honesty, and without any finger pointing, I think many people were carried along by the whole BLM/George Floyd situation, football included.

Yes, it was disgraceful but this still isn't the systemic state led torture, murder and mutilation of people no more guilty than Floyd who, as we know, was a criminal. Being Gay, or a raped woman, or a journalist shouldn't mean barbaric medieval punishments.

Nor should Russians have the right to assassinate people on an English street, be given the right to buy up endless UK properties or destroy a neighbouring country.

So the players/managers/clubs who reacted so overwhelmingly, to the George Floyd murder are being shown up by their silence regarding the murderers who employ them or otherwise hand them huge amounts of money.

Southgate was all too eager to jump on the BLM bandwagon because it cost nothing ...

... but, like many others, won't risk a penny when it comes to their paymasters.
 
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