That's my problem with what he's said. He's actively minimising the situation by virtually saying,' Yes there are problems but not bad enough for me to condemn them'. Honestly, wtf does this even mean .... "We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
As I suspected Southgate has just confirmed several European countries are talking about how they can work together during the competition to make a positive difference. It would be really good to see every European team on the same page throughout and force FIFA snd Qatar to recognise and respomd.
Quite a lot to agree with in the thread... It does appear that people are picking which 'parts' of the worldwide abuse they want to side with... Countries decided not to play Russia before the governing body decided to step in yet here we have the most blatant 'take the money and turn a blind eye' sport has ever seen... As said earlier, it is about time that those with money in sport and can have some influence started to say 'feck the money' and did the right thing, only then might we see some changes.
Right time for who? For him, his job security and his bank balance no doubt. The right time would have been a decade ago. However, to be fair to any high profile person being the first to stick their head over the trench. The fear of getting it swiped off with a curvy sword would stop me doing it.
They, and I imagine all visitors will be treat well. The problem is, it's just an act to appease wealthy foreigners and try to get them further involved with the Qataris, saudis, russians etc All the while they still treat 'their' people however they please.
Shouldn't world leaders, such as our own buffoon of a PM be the ones condemning Qatari human rights? Rather than a bloke who coaches a football team. What is he supposed to say? Is he supposed to resign unless the FA forfeits our place at the finals?
this is my point really, the decision was made to go to Qatar years before Southgate was part of the England set-up, so I don't blame him at all.
I'm not blaming him for anything other than the comments in the article I posted. I've no idea what he means with one particular comment, perhaps someone could explain. "We have got to use our voice in the right way at the right time."
Presumably what we've discussed on this thread, wait until the tournament starts and speak out to a worldwide audience, I don't think it could be any clearer.
Probably wait till we get knocked out then say we'll this shouldn't have happened anyway so we dont care
I'd be sending an all gay team, if there is one, ask them to play in some flamboyant strip, encourage them to passionately celebrate every throw in and free kick they are awarded, and give them a heroe's welcome when they come home.
i have no idea what southgate meant with that sentence, smug...it sounds as if they all might have something planned but my guess would be that they are happy enough to get a free holiday over there and a nice bonus to the bank account. my own view is that anyone who has 'taken the knee' and actually felt strongly about the statement it is supposed to make, cannot possibly take part without making themselves to be hypocrites...unless of course, they have all been doing it just to 'look the part' and none of them really care about equality.
In all honesty, and without any finger pointing, I think many people were carried along by the whole BLM/George Floyd situation, football included. Yes, it was disgraceful but this still isn't the systemic state led torture, murder and mutilation of people no more guilty than Floyd who, as we know, was a criminal. Being Gay, or a raped woman, or a journalist shouldn't mean barbaric medieval punishments. Nor should Russians have the right to assassinate people on an English street, be given the right to buy up endless UK properties or destroy a neighbouring country. So the players/managers/clubs who reacted so overwhelmingly, to the George Floyd murder are being shown up by their silence regarding the murderers who employ them or otherwise hand them huge amounts of money. Southgate was all too eager to jump on the BLM bandwagon because it cost nothing ... ... but, like many others, won't risk a penny when it comes to their paymasters.