Who didn't seem to care? Did the poor and the elderly not have a vote in the referendum? I think most of the votes for out came from the poorer and the elderly scetors, but i may be wrong.
The old surely did care, but we had food rationed for 13 years in order to win one war. This is nothing new to us. As polythemus said above, we thought it a price worth paying to get out of tyranny.
Fair play to them. Instead of being labeled selfish, they should be hailed as heroes for giving up their today so we can have a better tomorrow
For the hope, based on lies, for a better tomorrow!! Although it is easy to argue the remain camp weren't much better.
I think both camps were terrible for scare mongering and lies, i watched as many debates and read up on loads of paperwork etc to get as good an idea as possible and there still wasn't much to choose between them for me. Pretty much boiled down to immigration and laws, plus i asked that question..... if we were to be voting to join the EU would i vote in, the answer was most definitely no for me, hence my out vote.
Well, I;m not going to bad-mouth anybody on here for believing what they see fit. But I would say that the reason 70% of the over-65s turned out for the referendum is that we'd been waiting for 38 years to get the chance. The blatant lies the Remainers and Brexiters both told were largely irrelevant. We voted 'out' for reasons we'd been bottling up for most of our lives. We didn't want a new Soviet Union - end of. And that, undoubtedly, is what the EU is. No offence to anyone. But I didn't swallow lies at all. I swallowed what I saw at the Berlin Wall. OK?
Very interesting perspective mate. Not one I'd even considered. Hard to argue against the EU being a type of Soviet Union.
Except for the fact that the Germans didn't invade or shoot at us when we decided to leave. Not like Hungary in 56 or Czeckoslovakia in 68 At least, they haven't done so yet
those pesky Germans. Just give them free reign of the sun loungers for a couple of summers. That'll calm them down.
Hungary and Checko didn't have one little thing we do have - the Channel. That's always been a pain in the butt for would-be tyrants. (Not that I would class modern Germans like that anyway. I don't).
In effect it would be like any devaluation, were it to stay the same for a long time, which I don't believe. However it would mean that whatever we sell abroad is cheaper from the point of view of the buyer. This should make it easier to sell more. As you rightly said there is some offset by the costs of raw materials, however The UK manufacturing industries tend to specialise more in the sectors where high value is added so that basic raw material costs are not as important to the end price as they once were. Take it all as a package, put on your optimistic specs, and think that it's not all bad.
I'm not sure you are convincing anybody with your view, fair play to you for being optimistic but if devaluing the £ was good for the economy in any way we'd just start printing money. I voted to leave and I'm happy with my decision, so far. Providing article 50 gets invoked before March 17 when the Lisbon treaty gets conveniently adjusted to lock us all in.
I voted to stay in, but the decision wasn't easy for me. What i really want is what the original EEC was designed for which was a group of nations forming a trading alliance. The free movement of people and the growing political influence over and above nation state was a real bug bear for me.. Having said that, I feel the economic difficulties that we will face will prove to be harsh and long lasting.
Which is problies what will happen to keep the corrupt club together. **** what the people want. Since when did they listen to us?
It won't happen if Leadsom wins mate, but I'm convinced it will if (when) May wins. This country will flip it's lid, if we don't get 14 countries approving our exit.
I've not been trying to convince anybody. My original post was something of an aside that any prolonged period of a low £ would at least be somewhat beneficial to our Balance of Payments. What's followed has been an explanation of this idea.
I didn't vote and never do these days, whether it's a general election or any kind of referendum. I take whatever comes along and don't moan about the consequences, I simply live in a Smug little bubble where I make my own rules as far as I can. This may not be popular, or responsible, or whatever but I've given up trying to wade through all the lies and propaganda. I didn't understand a bloody thing, through all the TV coverage, and I don't believe the politicians did either. In my opinion none of them have a clue what happens next ........ I'll just whistle and get back to the football
Just shows how this gamble was far too complicated and far reaching to be decided, by referendum, almost every major issue was clouded and confused by both sides in the run up, with many of the consequences of the vote, possibly having the reverse effect than many who voted desired. It is so nuanced that even now I don't now whether I fell into the same trap. I actually voted remain and think that our timing on leaving could not have been worse, yes we are better of without the likes of janker and his french puppeteers but they are on the run anyway, now they will gleefully blame everything that goes wrong,as it will,on us, damaging our reputation as much as they can in order to justify their gready incompetence.. .
