Should Boris Stand Down ?

[AshtonRed]

Good job you are not a good judge of character then. Upon seeing it, un posted, added comment, then pushed the post button ...I got diverted to something else .......... I did not actually know where the "party item" originated from. I MISSED PMQ's got glimpses of it in news feeds. ... but why 12 months on ????

My comment re "Sir Captain Hindsight and Tele tubby have a barrel to scrape" was not finished, Tele Tubby in particular has very little other to say other than attempt scripted Q's, where 3 times in every 4 calling for BJ to resign or repeating previous Q's...of the day or weeks before!

In the light of last weeks [ and months of points scoring ] fiasco's .. it was good to hear The labour party actually standing up and finally " backing" the action against Covid ... Of course a bit OTT of opportunistic points scoring from Sir Cpt ....H..... in having a party political broadcast to counter the day BJ LAMBASTED labour praising himself un reservedly for such a gallant act of patriotism.............. honk ..........

At a time when we are facing such an onslaught from a virus that seems to know no bounds..... it really would be nice to see the whole country pulling in the same direction ... of course that wouldnt sell negative news ..... maybe we need a massive volcano to sprout up in the Pacific, or 400m NEA to be coming toward us with an error margin of maybe 30,000 miles ..............

For a start name calling is very juvenile and degrades any valid point you have, secondly it isn’t accurate, Kier has constantly backed the measure the Tories have brought in , often because they’re what he’s been calling for only several weeks late. Boris then deflects from that by saying the criticism is in hindsight when actually it isn’t it’s just he chose not to hear it initially.

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Unfortunately you not only latch onto and repeat the juvenile name calling, but also believe it.

This encourages Boris to do it all the more, even many of his back benchers are realising this tactic is wearing thin, and are starting to question his ability to lead.

He should be grateful Kier and his troops are above playing party politics and are likely to back his plans later today, otherwise he could possibly be facing a vote of no confidence, as many of his back benchers are likely to vote against his latest COVID measures.

 

[realred1952]

For a start name calling is very juvenile and degrades any valid point you have, secondly it isn’t accurate, Kier has constantly backed the measure the Tories have brought in , often because they’re what he’s been calling for only several weeks late. Boris then deflects from that by saying the criticism is in hindsight when actually it isn’t it’s just he chose not to hear it initially.

You dont follow PMQ's I assume ... in most parts of Scotland I tended to visit "pre covid" "tele tubby" was the name for the rather portly SNP parliamentary leader .... Nicola had /has about about 3 names .. south of border and LABOUR LEADER's titles not of my making, taken from various media outlets ...... based on his performances in Parliament no doubt!
Remember when in greenhouse do not throw stones! On numerous occassions in 2020 PMQ's, the labour leader sat there with a face like a slapped ass, when pulled up /put down over his changes of direction, or making comments of support only to poo poo the "idea/action" a few weeks later, what in hindsightmay have been a better choice. Historically the opposition, says pretty much the opposite to .gov [ thats how the "argument" gets aired ] .GOV has been following the science! it is mostly all new [ pandemic ] so .GOV says we have to try this way .OPPO says opposite... eventually it works out what was done was incomplete , it only helped partly, looking back in hindsight!!!!....

 

[AshtonRed]

You dont follow PMQ's I assume ... in most parts of Scotland I tended to visit "pre covid" "tele tubby" was the name for the rather portly SNP parliamentary leader .... Nicola had /has about about 3 names .. south of border and LABOUR LEADER's titles not of my making, taken from various media outlets ...... based on his performances in Parliament no doubt!
Remember when in greenhouse do not throw stones! On numerous occassions in 2020 PMQ's, the labour leader sat there with a face like a slapped ass, when pulled up /put down over his changes of direction, or making comments of support only to poo poo the "idea/action" a few weeks later, what in hindsightmay have been a better choice. Historically the opposition, says pretty much the opposite to .gov [ thats how the "argument" gets aired ] .GOV has been following the science! it is mostly all new [ pandemic ] so .GOV says we have to try this way .OPPO says opposite... eventually it works out what was done was incomplete , it only helped partly, looking back in hindsight!!!!....

Yes I do follow PMQ’s and stick by my first post. It might be an idea to read my post properly, unlike yours it’s to the point, straight forward and logical.

Do you ever read the posts I didn’t suggest you made Kier’s name up, I said it was Boris .

 

[realred1952]

reading the EUROPEAN news and the state of some of the euro countries regarding vaccinations. How fortunate are we that Boris is who he is ! countries within EU have spent so much time "trying to get one over " on the UK especially France and fishing, Germany trying to influence Brusseols to do this that and the other and in the stir with Poland they have forgotten one thing .....COVID ..... Germany for instance, now find they are under attack with New strain and have thought they were pretty safe [ low previous numbers ] are now in excess of 60,000,000 doses short at a time the world needs to rise to the occassion. Boris and co certainly got the forsight & dosage right, PMQ's often references to EU VACCINE/ Medical collabrative which Sir Keir Starmer was vehemently in favour of .. would have seen us struggling to get anyone over 50 and sorted with 3rd jab would be a pipe dream ..............

 

[realred1952]

the way peeps vote in a general and a by election follow 2 distinct trends main 1 turn out is down, seat changes hands.
The effects are enhanced more so when everything is quietly bobbing along. Usually very low turn out and party holder hangs on or loses by small number. When things are in a panic, and news is bad turnout rises above average By election percent usually down around <35% > to around < 40% > and the losing party in the previous [ usually gen election] is successful.
This time round the voters made 2 choices before their cross .... no to Tory and no to Labour. Therein lies A tale, VOTERS have voted against BORIS and are not impressed with Labour!
eligible to vote was 83,000 0nly 38,000 did [ to nearest 100 up ] 45,000 didnt bother, They didnt have anything to say, was not important to vote because their party had a majority [ tory ] their party had no chance of upsetting the .gov [ labour ] .

all in all good fodder for the media credited in some circles for stirring up poo to get a result........... IMO