Shota's done one...
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FYI, plenty of Turkish news started to mention Sergen Yalcin for Hull City, a few examples:
Today: https://ajansspor.com/haber/acun-ilicali-teknik-direktoru-turkiyede-buldu-613415
3 days ago: https://www.yeniakit.com.tr/haber/a...yapacak-yok-artik-dedirten-hamle-1690525.html (not really a trusted newspaper though)
He was also a candidate before Shota is chosen. You might ask, who is he?
As a player Sergen usually labeled as most technically gifted Turkish player ever lived, but he was famous with his night life, addicted to horse racing and betting and also he played for all major 4 clubs in Turkey (he was the first one who did that, second is Burak Yilmaz). You might also remember him when he scored a brace against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Acun met him, when he was working as Besiktas correspondent.
After football he appeared in TV shows as commentator, then he became a judge together with Acun in Turkey's Got Talent where he got close with him. Following that he had spells in several mid-range clubs in Turkey, then he is assigned to Besiktas (where he came from youth ranks). He unexpectedly got championship but fired next season after a series of bad results.
Today: https://ajansspor.com/haber/acun-ilicali-teknik-direktoru-turkiyede-buldu-613415
3 days ago: https://www.yeniakit.com.tr/haber/a...yapacak-yok-artik-dedirten-hamle-1690525.html (not really a trusted newspaper though)
He was also a candidate before Shota is chosen. You might ask, who is he?
As a player Sergen usually labeled as most technically gifted Turkish player ever lived, but he was famous with his night life, addicted to horse racing and betting and also he played for all major 4 clubs in Turkey (he was the first one who did that, second is Burak Yilmaz). You might also remember him when he scored a brace against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Acun met him, when he was working as Besiktas correspondent.
After football he appeared in TV shows as commentator, then he became a judge together with Acun in Turkey's Got Talent where he got close with him. Following that he had spells in several mid-range clubs in Turkey, then he is assigned to Besiktas (where he came from youth ranks). He unexpectedly got championship but fired next season after a series of bad results.
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basically we've signed a bunch of pie lovers who hate running and want a big pay check
they'll be even worse in the harsh cold east yorkshire winter weather with that fiece north sea gale
We're doomed!
Dyche in the paper about his sacking at Burnley.
I forgot Bournemouth didn’t have a manager.
I assume any manager will be Turkish anyway, so it’s all irrelevant thinking Dyche or Parker or anyone else with experience in English football will be looked at.
Still, never know, we might get lucky.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
I forgot Bournemouth didn’t have a manager.
I assume any manager will be Turkish anyway, so it’s all irrelevant thinking Dyche or Parker or anyone else with experience in English football will be looked at.
Still, never know, we might get lucky.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1982...0922&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1663272472-1
He just strikes me as very much a fancy dan powderpuff midfielder. A luxury that needs carrying by a team of grafters. I reckon if his name was John Smith rather than Jean Seri that people would be very underwhelmed by him and his contributions.
He’s our best player of course he’s going to get looked at give it up with the scape goat bollocks
A Roy Keane playing behind him would have had him by the scruff of the neck at half time or an ashbee
Same with seri and Pelkas
we have a top class forward starved of any service
That is utter ****ing bollocks
we were appalling yesterday
Nothing went right!!! Minimal effort from the midfield and Pelkas and we played a baby on the wing ffs he’s come in and looked lost. Swansea brought a young kid on for Joe Allen who’s on Loan and he looked like he’s played there for them for years! What does that tell you about our manager.
There’s no transition between defence and midfield no idea who to play it to no one making space and when it does go forward it gets passed straight back. Seri has to do his fair share of defensive work but doesn’t look like he wants to same with Tufan
Unless you think we got better as the first half went on
that game should have been 8-0 without question
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They had at least 40 applicants when McCann left.
I only watched the first half yesterday, I felt sorry for the crossbar and couldn’t watch it sustain any more damage.
Looking later at my phone, I was really surprised to see Seri wasn’t subbed off at half time, at times he simply stood by and watched as their midfielders ran past him - not beat him with skill, just run in a straight line past him.
I thought Tufan did alright in the first half, he was our main outlet and playing as a left-side leaning number 10 he was unlikely to do much tracking back. Sounds like he got worse though.
The Baxter/Fig goal, looked to me on the replay like Fig felt contact on his heel and dived assuming he would get a free kick. Utter dereliction of duty.
Looking later at my phone, I was really surprised to see Seri wasn’t subbed off at half time, at times he simply stood by and watched as their midfielders ran past him - not beat him with skill, just run in a straight line past him.
I thought Tufan did alright in the first half, he was our main outlet and playing as a left-side leaning number 10 he was unlikely to do much tracking back. Sounds like he got worse though.
The Baxter/Fig goal, looked to me on the replay like Fig felt contact on his heel and dived assuming he would get a free kick. Utter dereliction of duty.
Yeah they didn’t really need to do much to get through, did they?
The third goal was almost Toby trying to tell Shota to drop him.
If the first knock on Shota’s door isn’t from Sean McLoughlin, I’ll be stunned.
Hard to argue with that.That is utter ****ing bollocks
we were appalling yesterday
Nothing went right!!! Minimal effort from the midfield and Pelkas and we played a baby on the wing ffs he’s come in and looked lost. Swansea brought a young kid on for Joe Allen who’s on Loan and he looked like he’s played there for them for years! What does that tell you about our manager.
There’s no transition between defence and midfield no idea who to play it to no one making space and when it does go forward it gets passed straight back. Seri has to do his fair share of defensive work but doesn’t look like he wants to same with Tufan
Unless you think we got better as the first half went on
that game should have been 8-0 without question
At least we can now see why he didn't bring Vale straight in. Clearly wrong decision to start him today.
Amazing how so many screamed for the youngsters so he plays one and he drops a bollock - ya can’t have it both ways can ya other than non marking Vale was ok or no wires than a lot of others on the pitch
So Shota has been "given time" whatever that means. Let's say he's been given the next 5 matches. That's;
Luton (H)
Wigan (H)
Huddersfield (A)
Birmingham (H)
Blackpool (A)
From those games I would be looking for a return of at least 8 points and some kind of pattern emerging in our play if he were to get any longer. That would give us 19 points from 15 games, which is a third of the season - long enough for Shota to have gotten his messages across.
Luton (H)
Wigan (H)
Huddersfield (A)
Birmingham (H)
Blackpool (A)
From those games I would be looking for a return of at least 8 points and some kind of pattern emerging in our play if he were to get any longer. That would give us 19 points from 15 games, which is a third of the season - long enough for Shota to have gotten his messages across.
Never really dawned on me that we made all those signings , yet still mainly reliant on our league 1 defence . Pretty poor whoever let that happen
I can't see for a 2nd why he'll get 5 games. Luton will beat us and that will be that.
I don't understand either when a gaffer is in thus position that you don't just let them go now. I can't think of an example where as manager has turned it around and become a success
I agree, unless the time is just so he can get the feelers out for his replacement . The only thing if he did let him go is any new manager would probably want his own players in January and Acun has spent a lot of time recruiting some of these , imagine somebody like Dyche coming in and not fancying Pelkas and Tufan , probably wouldn’t go down well