Serious takeover talk

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There’s a big hole in that though.

What was the Close Bros money used for? As if it was effectively running costs for the club, then that absolutely justifies it, immediately, being paid back with parachute money.

Or are you saying Stu took that loan to buy himself a new kitchen and bathroom?

The majority of the Close bros money was used to pay Ellis Short by Stewart Donald's words. That was for SD's shareholding in the club.
 
The majority of the Close bros money was used to pay Ellis Short by Stewart Donald's words. That was for SD's shareholding in the club.

Ok, so who paid the salaries? Remember we had a huge wage bill last season. You’ve accounted for the parachute money etc. That’s fine.

Who paid the wages and running costs of the club, with reduced income, and Premier League costs?

Remember, you’ve accounted for the parachute payments. Who paid the wages, and did so whilst actively rescuing costs and retaining the low level of debt?

Who’s money paid these things, which were far above and beyond the £5million he paid, plus all gate receipts etc?
 
The majority of the Close bros money was used to pay Ellis Short by Stewart Donald's words. That was for SD's shareholding in the club.
Enough now please?

You have made your point, so leave it.

As I said earlier on rtg your posts wouldn't have been up more than seconds, that should tell you enough that on a subject ad sensitive as this at a time when everywhere is under scrutiny that you shouldn't be posting on a forum you have no stake in
 
The majority of the Close bros money was used to pay Ellis Short by Stewart Donald's words. That was for SD's shareholding in the club.
As you've stated, they've done nothing illegal so if that's the case they have no requirement to justify it to you, me nor any other bugger out there.

It does come across as if you have a vendetta against the owners with how often you bring these things up.

Probably time to give it a rest mate.
 
Ok, so who paid the salaries? Remember we had a huge wage bill last season. You’ve accounted for the parachute money etc. That’s fine.

Who paid the wages and running costs of the club, with reduced income, and Premier League costs?

Remember, you’ve accounted for the parachute payments. Who paid the wages, and did so whilst actively rescuing costs and retaining the low level of debt?

Who’s money paid these things, which were far above and beyond the £5million he paid, plus all gate receipts etc?
I wouldn't expect an answer marra s it doesn't fit the agenda. :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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So first off, I think it's important to find out what happened with the Close Bros debt. That was paid off by the club via parachute payments from April-July. Anything paid off to Short from that should have gone onto the outstanding loan balance that you cite as £20m and falling. Hopefully it has, because if it hasn't, the club has effectively paid Short to buy... itself... for Madrox!

I think the accounts will show the truth, or at least some of it. As you say, let's just wait and see in April. Will be interesting for sure.
I know auditing has got a pretty bad reputation atm but come on! I'm sure they'll be checking a £8m payment to ES has gone to the Madrox loan account.
 
Ok, so who paid the salaries? Remember we had a huge wage bill last season. You’ve accounted for the parachute money etc. That’s fine.

Who paid the wages and running costs of the club, with reduced income, and Premier League costs?

Remember, you’ve accounted for the parachute payments. Who paid the wages, and did so whilst actively rescuing costs and retaining the low level of debt?

Who’s money paid these things, which were far above and beyond the £5million he paid, plus all gate receipts etc?

Revenue £20m
Costs £32m

£34m parachute payment
£25m to SBC = £9m left

£9m +20m revenue = £29m of £32m.

£3m from Sartori. Some money up front for Maja. He could have put it in. Lots of options.
 
Why does anyone care if SD used the parachute payment to buy the club. Surely that's better than a high interest loan from someone like Close Brothers. Did Short or Drumaville suffer the same kind of scrutiny from amateur accountants?
I think it's because some think if he sells SAFC for £40m he'll then keep the money rather than replace the club's money from the parachute payments he used to buy the club.

It like me getting you to give me the £35 you got in bonus payments.
I then put this towards a £40 ticket your selling so I only pay £5 myself.
I then sell the ticket for £40 to someone else and keep it.
I don't pay you your £35 back as it was a bonus that came with the ticket.

Basically you're SAFC and I'm SD in this make believe ****e! :emoticon-0102-bigsm I don't believe it in any way of course but **** does happen in business.
 
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Revenue £20m
Costs £32m

£34m parachute payment
£25m to SBC = £9m left

£9m +20m revenue = £29m of £32m.

£3m from Sartori. Some money up front for Maja. He could have put it in. Lots of options.

£20 million revenue from where?

We still owed money out on players as well, there was an additional huge hit on Alvarez, and we did not get paid in a lump for Maja.
 
Someone asked me a direct question, and then said I wouldn't answer. What would you do?
I'd give it a rest as you have made your point over and over again.

I'd also remind you for the 3rd time that your posts wouldnt last 5 minutes on rtg, so don't take the piss here
 
But revenue in isn’t pure profit. You can have revenue of £100 million but outgoings of £105million.

That’s not cash in the bank. Revenue and turnover isn’t a pot of money.

That's why I said £32m costs?

The £20m left a £12m shortfall. £9m was covered by the parachute money
 
Revenue £20m
Costs £32m

£34m parachute payment
£25m to SBC = £9m left

£9m +20m revenue = £29m of £32m.

£3m from Sartori. Some money up front for Maja. He could have put it in. Lots of options.
Are these cash inflows and outflows? Or historic sales and expenses? Or ongoing annual sales and expenses? Each one makes a huge difference.

Have you included the £10m NDong shaped hole in ES's cashflow forecast that needed plugging?
 
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