We've picked up 14 points from losing positions this season, something only bettered by two teams, so that blows that one out of the water. Also we have only been outplayed in a handful of games out of thirty-six.
Put yourself in the position of Grant Holt, he has got say 3 years left at the top. I don't know what he is on but i heard something of a top wage of 15k for you guys. So say if a club came in for him and were prepared to offer him european football and 45k a week in wages. what would you do in his situation?
Fulham, Bolton, Wigwam and Stoke are the sides that have come up and established themselves in the premier league in the last 10-12 years. I can't think of anyone else. Some good points raised on this thread - will a Norwich, Swansea, Reading or Southampton be able to repeat this and become established?
of those 14 points how many were in the first half of the season and how many were in the second half?
..............can't fiddle the numbers? you have said that 10 teams have been relegated in their second season since the start on the premier. that is 10 out of 57 relegated teams. i make that just 17.5%, not the 33% you initially quoted. just about half as many as you are trying to make us believe.
Does it matter? You said after a season of not being able to do that! We have picked up ten points since January, so that definitely blows it out of the water
I believe southampton & Reading can, got a lot of money behind them. Of the more established clubs now that my fall, i reckon Bolton, Fulham and stoke could drop down within the next 3 seasons.
Yeah agreed it could happen that players will leave, given the right circumstances. All I'm really trying to say is things look as positive as they could be for a club in Norwich's position and the second season sydrome has very little if anything to do with momentum, there are so many other factors that determine the ability of a club to continue to establish themselves.
I also said that there has been significate increase in the last 6 years, which is where i clearly state the figures came from. so of 18 clubs promoted, 6 of those have been relegated in their second season which is 33.3333333%.
this is the 150th post on this thread, unless more are posted while i hunt and peck, and i would guess guru has at least 40 of them. the lad needs to get a life.
Of course it matters, I'm saying at the start of the season you have that belief to come back because you have done so over the previous seasons and then that belief drains away after a few results that go against you.
I thought the Reading sale hasn't gone through yet Guru Bolton will probably go this year (i'd rather QPR did), not sure about Stoke. Fulham could struggle if they lost Dembele and Dempsey, and a lot of their first team is quite old (murphy, Duff, Senderos to name a few) however, i've seen them a few times this season, and they have a decent academy / knack of signing young players from overseas, so not sure myself.
No, to suit the change in direction with foreign investors, I am only pointing out facts that there has been a significate increase in the so called second season syndrome!
aaahhhhhhh, the retort of somebody who couldn't actually admit they were wrong about the figures that i posted.
Its nearly 5pm dave, and i'm not stuck in the office tomorrow so i will give you guys a rest and take it up on Thursday.
Well I'm looking forward to a second summer of finding out about the comings and goings in the transfer market as we prepare for our second season in the Premier League and increased financial stability
