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Second Referendum

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Tobes

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    Yawn, nice to see the Zlatan put in appearance again
     
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    <laugh>

    yet it's true, if I had a penny for every time I debated an ideologue who refused to accept well sourced scientific arguments without a reason to, I'd have enough to.. well buy a pair of decent trainers :D
    Gets annoying, hours wasted over the years.
    Nothing worse than putting together a solid case only to have the other person go "well they said" and spams a link they never read, and expect you to sift through it.
    Appeals to authority coupled with wilful ignorance are a waste of my time

    So is getting precious a waste of time
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

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    I don’t think whisky is allowed to join the EU
     
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  4. HRH Custard VC

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  5. Angry_Physics

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    Sadly this is true, colleges are producing people who cant even deal with disagreement, and have to run off to a save space, cos you know, different ideas are "micro aggressions" and words are "violence" apparently <laugh>
     
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    Don't know about that, Juncker likes a snifter or 17, even when on the job :emoticon-0168-drink
     
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    Jesus Christ, now Kustard has liked this one <laugh>
     
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  8. Angry_Physics

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    he said while hoping for likes for ^ this one <laugh>
     
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  9. DerekTheMole

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    I don't care whether someone likes my posts or not, to be honest!

    Give me a like guys if you agree!
     
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  11. NSIS

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    Firstly, many of the economic consequences were pretty easy to predict. And most are now happening. Weak currency, rates rising, inflation at a recent high, and the effective shrinking of pay packets.

    We already control out currency as we never joined the single currency.

    I’m not positive in the slightest about the near to medium term. All my experience tells me that the UK economy will suffer, to what degree depends on how ‘hard’ a Brexit there is. The long term is far more difficult to see.

    The EU economies are having a mini boom. Spain’s economy is growing at more than 3% p.a. Contrasts with the UK which was top of the growth league until the Brexit vote and is now at, or very near, the bottom.
     
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  12. Angry_Physics

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    You cant use transient factors that cannot be blamed solely on Brexit. Brexit impacts are also in part caused by doom mongering and don't pretend there not have been positive factors too.

    Shrinking pay packets are caused by many factors, competition, regulations, taxes and many others.

    I never said Britain does not control its own currency lol. I am saying it is a competitive edge compared to the rest of the EU and the Sterling is a better trade than the Euro

    Spain's economy has been so bad, that growth had to happen, that is not a boom, its a slight recovery, more remoaner misleading "facts"
    Same for the majority of EU states.
    That's like giving Obama the credit for economic growth right after the US hit rock bottom in 2008 lol, the only way was up.


    Claiming the Brexit vote causes all fluctuations in growth is dishonest at best
     
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  13. Archers Road

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    Do you not see the irony here? A spineless pansy too scared to leave the end of his street (that's you, btw) posting stuff about how gutless today's young people are?
     
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  14. Archers Road

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    ^^^^ Dislike
     
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    ^^^^Double dislike (now with added ire) :bandit:
     
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    Weather is daily. Climate is long term. If it rains in the Sahara desert for one day it does not mean that it is not an arid climate.
     
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    The vast majority of the current economic downturn can be placed firmly at the door of Brexit. Absolutely no doubt about that.

    Currently, Shrinking pay packets are down to the rise in inflation to above 3%. Whilst wage inflation is some 2.1%

    Sterling may rise at some point depending how Brexit goes. You may have noticed that anything that smacks of a softer Brexit causes Stg to rise. Conversely any signals of a hard Brexit and it tanks. That’s because the international mkts don’t think Brexit is a very good idea.

    Spain’s economy was in a bad way, as were many others in Europe, Yes, that’s cyclical. But it doesn’t hide the fact that the UK has gone from the top to bottom of the growth league since the vote.

    I’ve never said it causes fluctuations. This is not a fluctuation! It’s a collapse, an effective devaluation.
     
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  18. Angry_Physics

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    "The vast majority of the current economic downturn can be placed firmly at the door of Brexit. Absolutely no doubt about that."
    --Excuse me for not accepting your assurances.

    "Currently, Shrinking pay packets are down to the rise in inflation to above 3%. Whilst wage inflation is some 2.1%"
    --Inflation has been kept artificially low since 2008, blaming an increase purely on Brexit is lol

    market manipulation with things like energy cause problems, like renewable energy which survives as a zombie sector, pull the free money from it and ****, it's gone
    Also, look at what all those Brexit votes in the past caused
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    lol

    "Sterling may rise at some point depending how Brexit goes. You may have noticed that anything that smacks of a softer Brexit causes Stg to rise. Conversely any signals of a hard Brexit and it tanks. That’s because the international mkts don’t think Brexit is a very good idea."
    --A scary labelled "hard brexit" is a transient effect, depending on following negotiations it could be quite transient indeed, paranoia.

    "I’ve never said it causes fluctuations. This is not a fluctuation! It’s a collapse, an effective devaluation"
    --There has been serious quantitative easing since 2008 which has devalued the currency many times.
    No not a collapse, that's remoaner doom porn, plus you went searching for this nonsense from the "right sources", I merely respond from a learned pov on the matter
    Currency devaluation is also a means of competitiveness
    Another remoaner doom porn argument mate, none of it based in reality
     
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  19. Bodinki

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    And the effect it has had on me has been zero <ok>
    It makes me laugh too, since this and that is attributed to Brexit, when the Brexit hasn't even happened yet. <laugh>

    Reactionary ****tards, doing reactionary ****.

    And still ALL worth it at the end of the day, once all is said and done.
    There is no economic effect, negative or positive that will ever convince me that staying in the EU is a good idea.
     
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    Shows nothing except that inflation has risen rapidly after the Brexit vote, as I said.

    That’s the reality. One you just don’t want to accept,
     
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