Second Referendum

Death of a thousand cuts mate

 

Will you stop with them sig pics, I can't keep knocking one out at this rate, I'll be like an empty sausage skin before long

 

I had to turn sigs off because of Bod. Didn't want my co-workers to think I was having a **** in work, although if you ask Pete and Kustard that's perfectly acceptable if you're a Tory MP

 

That would not be in the best interests of either party.
Almost certainly will not happen.

 

Not convinced we will be any clearer as to what the actually deal will be in a years time. I reckon we will still be playing hokey cokey brexit. Can't even move to phase 2 until phase 1 is ratified due to both sides having a different opinion of what phase 1 means.

Even then the UK wanting a bespoke deal including finance, no ECJ and no irish border makes the position impossible to achieve in the timescales. Something will have to give and I think it will become a longer transition or an extension to A50.

 

Brexit will mean that Ireland will have to make a call for all the bluster coming from our rank crooked politicians. Every one of them bought by the EU. If you think that's not true, then consider Ireland's population is 6 million, Irish tax payers are about a third of that, around 2.something million, and Ireland's then government broke Irish law by transferring private debt to public debt and allowed the Troika to financially occupy the country, and saddled Ireland with 42% of the Eurozone dept

Yep 2.something million people were saddled with 42% of the 2008 Eurozone debt.!
My debt now and when I was living in Ireland, 0. Yet I had to pay back German and Irish banks for taking mental risks

There is your EU for you

 

Phh kicks remoaners in the nuts again

 

They've scuttled back to the politics thread to engage in playground 'abuse' and continue fantasy existence.

Reality fries them.

 

it is easy to kick their nuts when they wear them just below nose.

You know that spot between your balls and arsehole, that's where a remoaner moustache grows

 

They won't get any joy here, their arguments are like Pet Friends lego sets

 

They've never had any credible answers to much. They swallow whatever their main stream media of choice serves them up.

 

Don't forget cherry picking inflation rises, to them inflation only existed from when the Brexit vote was just decided.

 

"Despite" brexit.

 

Bring em on

 

We had a vote. We lost.

Get over it!

Move on.

And stop being whinging ****s.

It's called Democracy.

For ****s sake, stop ****ing whining!

 

^^ This is how not to remoan.

Take note you bunch of ....

 

Can I just check a few facts with you.
42% of Eurozone debt seems a bit vague so I wondered how you are measuring it.
All the countries in the Eurozone debt?
Borrowing by Eurozone countries in 2008?
Perhaps you are referring to money lent by ECB to eurozone countries?

So I looked a bit further and found various figures. I suspect the key one that leads to your claim the amount the Irish government borrowed and directly gifted it's banks which was just over €41bn, across the EU other countries gave their banks €58bn.
If this is what you are referring to the question is why you are excluding money borrowed by government's and given to banks in exchange for shares and assets? This is estimated at over €800bn and much of which was eventually written off as bad debt but at the time would've been treated as neutral because it was an asset purchase.

Of course you maybe referring to something else, I'd be interested to know as I love researching these things.

Just looking at the tables on the €41bn story shows what a an odd measurement it is. If the UK had only needed to borrow €10bn in propping up its banks then do you seriously think it would've triggered austerity measures?

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Germany €40bn, Ireland liable for €41bn.
Crisis has cost Ireland 25% of GDP and Germany 1.5%.

The average banking crisis debt across the EU €192 per person, Ireland €9,000 per Irish citizen, not counting for €18bn put in from the National Pension Reserve Fund.

The Troika came in, and had asset stripping in mind, and damaging Austerity policies forced into place, causing more problems and affecting GDP even worse than the 25% we lost.

Yes it was 42% It's not an odd measurement, when when you are covering the debt of risk takers from all over Europe is it?

That debt was not ours, as I said clearly, I know our politicians in Ireland are bent as ****. They let the EU rape the Irish people, 9000k per head.

The ECB forced the payment of bond holders. Again, only 2.something people are tax payers in 2008, so the 9k per head is not accurate, as it is per capita, so actual working people had nearly triple that put on them to line the pockets of people the ECB thought we should line the pockets of

In short, the ECB forced 26K approx public debt per head, on 2.5 million working people (at the time), 42% of the EU debt, all to line the pockets of friends of ECB bankers.

****ING EU

 

Are you getting it yet? ECB forced us to pay the bond holders and were only too happy to lend us money and make billions out of it in the process.

 

Can I just check with you that posting that on a Friday night at 10 o clock shows you're a boring lifeless twat?