Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  • Yes

  • No

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Gambol said:
Some thoughts...

Do we want to determine our own governance? Yes

Do we want to sit at the NATO table? Who cares. It doesn't matter. Let the 'powerhouses' continue their own who can pish higher competition. Nae **** is gonny lob nukes ever. Ever.

Do we want to sit at the Euro table? Mibby. As long as it's good for us. The UK will vote in 2016 on the same question. We may be in, we may be out.

Do we want a currency union? Who cares. A currency union makes sense for an independent Scotland (in the short term) and for the UK (in continuity) in terms of trade between us. After that it disny matter a ****. It will be renegotiated as best suits trade and business.

Do we want our share of UK assets? Yes and no. If we take a share of assets we take a share of the liabilities on those assets. If we are denied a share of assets we therefore eschew liabilities.

Assets, believe it or not, include the non-existent pension fund. The fund that consecutive Westminster Governments spent before they had it. There is no pension fund. Peter spent it before borrowing from Paul, and Paul never had a penny. Paul, meanwhile was borrowing from ****, and **** is a failed banker. Money disappearing act.

Do we want nuclear disarmament? Who cares. The real question is keep Faslane or not. (Note this has nothing to do with NATO membership)

Do we have armed forces after independence? How do we divvy that up? Take the Scots fellas from UK forces? How do we pay for our own forces and security?

Are our own resources enough? Well, obviously. We've been propping up decades of decadent overspending by Westminster while being told the oil would run out 25 years ago. Further, we have highly valuable exported resources in terms of our produce (eg. grain/rape, lamb/wool, beef, whisky, seafood), as well as power production via nuclear and hydro-electrical and new generation like wind and wave farms.

Are we smart enough? Yes. Undeniably yes. We have the oldest and best academic and scientific institutions in the world, bar none. We have fallen a long way behind in IT technology, though. Companies and organisations worldwide come to Scottish Universities to research such simple things as DNA, cloning, cancer, to name but a few.

Are we Scotland? Yes.

Am voting YES

If we make a **** of it, it's our own **** of it, and we can elect people to un-**** it. As opposed to taking what Westminster tells us what **** of it we have.

YES!
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Wine been flowing ?
 
MD 20/20 said:
You're probably right I reckon that influence will be limited if Scotland was to leave though. Not for us leaving but for us being allowed to so easily.

Lot's of countries would take it as a sign of weakness I reckon.
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The point here is it's not independence from an oppressor, occupying **** or some old colonial ****e. We are currently one nation in union, it's more a divorce than anything.

And some **** call a doctor, Gambol fell off the fence.
 
gas. said:
The point here is it's not independence from an oppressor, occupying **** or some old colonial ****e. We are currently one nation in union, it's more a divorce than anything.

And some **** call a doctor, Gambol fell off the fence.
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<laugh>

Get the **** oot ma country you Nigel git <grr>
 
gas. said:
The point here is it's not independence from an oppressor, occupying **** or some old colonial ****e. We are currently one nation in union, it's more a divorce than anything.

And some **** call a doctor, Gambol fell off the fence.
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I agree.

I just don't believe that its as black and white as who has more influence. I think theres a genuine case for Westminister to answer regarding the maritime border.

Whether or not a UN court would find in our favour? I wouldn't like to say.
 
MD 20/20 said:
I agree.

I just don't believe that its as black and white as who has more influence. I think theres a genuine case for Westminister to answer regarding the maritime border.

Whether or not a UN court would find in our favour? I wouldn't like to say.
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arrrrr, them be ours
 
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