Scotch Independence - the countdown

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  • Yes

  • No


Results are only viewable after voting.
If Scotchland is shortly to become an economic burden why do they want to keep us in the UK?

Oh, I see, drain us of all the oil and then get rid of us.

In that case, I have decide am voting Yes. May as well have a few good years out of it.

It's a matter for you, Gambol. I don't buy the gist of the article, but I don't agree that your average Jock is any "fairer" than your average Nige. I find that tone very patronising and condescending and is basic nationalism for the lower IQ's.

As the UK, we have very big decisions to make as a nation in the coming years. As the populace gets older, the pensions burden will be greater, as will healthcare and the likes. I know how we can pay for such privileges but I don't think that the SNP do. (BTW Westmisnter doesn't either). I long for a political party of principle, who isn't afraid to come out and make people take their medicine. The UK effectively went Bankrupt in the 60's. For all the talk of austerity, we're still racking up debt (soon to be 90% GDP) As a UK, we have huge liabilities, the PPP hospitals/schools etc, aren't even counted on the nations balance sheet and they're worth bazzilions, let alone the interest payments on the nations debt is worth something like £50bn a year FFS.

Salmonds plan is to borrow even more, to make Scotland 'fairer'. Now most Credit agencies have all came out and said that Scotland, although getting a AAA rating (if they take their share of Westminster debt), would face higher interest charges meaning that Scotland would face higher repayments on their borrowings and their existing debt legacy from UK.

It's a toughie, but the UK has been good to the nations which make up the State, though I'm sure some will disagree but I've not made my mind up yet. I feel drawn to voting Yes as my dad is a nationalist and he's always drummed it into me as a kid between beatings and rapes, but my head is saying "it's a big risk"....

GSTQ
 
It's a matter for you, Gambol. I don't buy the gist of the article, but I don't agree that your average Jock is any "fairer" than your average Nige. I find that tone very patronising and condescending and is basic nationalism for the lower IQ's.

As the UK, we have very big decisions to make as a nation in the coming years. As the populace gets older, the pensions burden will be greater, as will healthcare and the likes. I know how we can pay for such privileges but I don't think that the SNP do. (BTW Westmisnter doesn't either). I long for a political party of principle, who isn't afraid to come out and make people take their medicine. The UK effectively went Bankrupt in the 60's. For all the talk of austerity, we're still racking up debt (soon to be 90% GDP) As a UK, we have huge liabilities, the PPP hospitals/schools etc, aren't even counted on the nations balance sheet and they're worth bazzilions, let alone the interest payments on the nations debt is worth something like £50bn a year FFS.

Salmonds plan is to borrow even more, to make Scotland 'fairer'. Now most Credit agencies have all came out and said that Scotland, although getting a AAA rating (if they take their share of Westminster debt), would face higher interest charges meaning that Scotland would face higher repayments on their borrowings and their existing debt legacy from UK.

It's a toughie, but the UK has been good to the nations which make up the State, though I'm sure some will disagree but I've not made my mind up yet. I feel drawn to voting Yes as my dad is a nationalist and he's always drummed it into me as a kid between beatings and rapes, but my head is saying "it's a big risk"....

GSTQ

It is a risk. But so is staying in the union

I too, remain undecided.
 
With no guarantee that an independent Scotland would be admitted to the EU, I find it unlikely that Gambol will risk losing access to that big wine lake.
 
With no guarantee that an independent Scotland would be admitted to the EU, I find it unlikely that Gambol will risk losing access to that big wine lake.

There's a wine lake? Why the **** was I not informed?

Naw it's, awright, I think I can work out why I was not informed.
 
If it doesn't work out, sure you can just move to England.

I'm not even joking either - the break up the entire union would be a shot to nothing for me - if it doesn't work out, **** it, I've got an EU passport.
 
If it doesn't work out, sure you can just move to England.

I'm not even joking either - the break up the entire union would be a shot to nothing for me - if it doesn't work out, **** it, I've got an EU passport.

As if we want scottish riff-raff down here <doh>

They can move, but only north of Birmingham.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/ed-miliband-charles-clarke_n_5583680.html


Looking like five more years of Tory rule. Scotland will get proper ****ed if we vote No.

We always got proper ****ed aff the Tories. They know we hate them. Making us divisive between Labour and SNP was great for them. But, uh oh, we punted Labour anaw.

If only some **** could answer how the pensions and assets will be divided it would allow some proper decision making as regards yes/undecided/no.