Scotch Independence - the countdown

You could always move up here, we'll take anyone.

 

I come from Hitchin, we have had a Conservative MP since...ever. I never bothered to vote as the Tories had such a massive majority. Until this government, we in Hitchin endured twelve years under a Labour government voted in by scotch/taffs/northerners/immigrants/benefits recipients. This twelve years of lunacy was not enough to persuade me that Hitchin should seek independence.

 

Yep, that's about the size of it. What's worse is that Labour under Blair became Tory of a different colour so ye's don't even have options.

On the plus side, we've got the chance to get the hell out of it

 

He can stay at ma hoose

 

Is Hitchin a country?

 

Aye ah may just do that.

Back tae Coatbridge.

 

No, it's part of the UK.

 

Yay ye can finally get to pump ma misses

 

The only reason Blair's Labour got in was because the Tories ****ed it up and pissed off enough of Nigelshire to allow the Scottish/Welsh Labour vote to hold some sway. A swing by England back to Tory/LibDem easily wiped out the Scottish/Welsh vote.

What's the rough voting population? 48 million in England, 5 million in Scotland, 4 million in Wales? Disny take a genius to see the democratic problem.

 

Aye, yer missus

 

So what leads you to make comparisons with an actual Country - which was at one time an independent nation, and a market town?

I don't see what you suggest is at all logical.

 

There's a thousand towns like Hitchen, Tory ****s through and through. All the urban places are in the main Labour with a few LibDems.

 

It's not a democratic problem, the party with the largest vote forms the government. You're just moaning that a sub-section of the UK population sometimes don't get the government they vote for. Same for Hitchin/Hertfordshire/the nice bits of England.

 

I'm making (or trying to) the point that moaning about sometimes not getting the government that a particular sub-section have voted for is not a case for carving-up a country.

 

And that would be an entirely reasonable argument if the Independence of Scotland was being sought merely because the voting system was deemed unfair.

It's a bit more complex though, many factors are at play and if the Yes vote is succesful, I doubt many would vote that way simply because they are sick of just the Tories. I know I won't, even though i'm still undecided. I personally want rid of the Monarchy, that's my prime motivation for independence.

 

But the nationalists have already stated the Queen will remain head of state for an independent Scotland.

You keep the Queen but you don't get our pound, our BBC and we get Standard Life. It's a deal.

 

Yer at the wind up.

Comparing voting demographic of towns/shires within a country against the demographic of Scotland.

 

Salmond plans to keep the monarchy along with the pound which is controlled by the Bank of England which answers to the (Tory) government.
I think the monarchy is irrelevant compared to keeping the pound.

 

Yes it is .

 

That's open to change, i've been advised (By ST no less) that bit of legislation will be altered an we will be Royalty free eventually. It's much more likely to happen in an Independent Scotland than in a United Kingdom.