Saint Victor!

[Le Tissier's Laces]

The majority of recruitment businesses will charge around 20% of a candidates first year salary when they put them into a company, as I well know to my cost. That's an "out of football" industry standard. If the person gets headhunter into your business for a specific position it's more.

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

This has the feel of the Buttner situation...extra money requested for an agent (his father) and Saints withdrew from deal. Celtic having accepted an offer from us, quite rightly reject the offer from Cardiff (at least for the moment). However, they may have to accept Cardiff's lesser offer if the player (and agent) prefer that deal. Cortese won't go cap in hand...as I said before, this player is not essential to us.

 

[fatletiss]

I wish you were right:-




2012/13

Wigan - £8,300,000 spent on players and £1,974,305 on agent fees. 23.78%

West Ham - £19,750,000 spent on players and £4,436,992 on agent fees. 22.47%

Norwich - £9,000,000 spent on players and £1,248,725 on agent fees. 13.88%

Everton - £17,000,000 spent on players and £3,092,891 on agent fees 18.20%

Reading - £7,400,000 spent on players and £2,167,833 on agent fees 29.00%

Saints - £32,700,000 spent on players and £646,106 on agent fees 1.98%


(I got bored at this point)



The point seems to be that other than Southampton, this is entirely normal.....scary.

Those % may be distorted by contract renewals that will also inude agent fees but no transfer fee.

 

[- Doing The Lambert Walk]

SAINTS RAGE AS GREEDY AGENTS DEMAND £1M: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ion-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

SAINTS RAGE AS GREEDY AGENTS DEMAND £1M: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ion-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

Excellent news that it's being reported. Not a great deal of point in NC going on a one man mission, but if it stirs things up a bit and the press are picking up on it, then all power to his elbow (plus it might help push the deal through!)

 

[Joe!]

SAINTS RAGE AS GREEDY AGENTS DEMAND £1M: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ion-to-let-their-player-join-Southampton.html

Ever get the feeling The Sun get their info from reading this forum?

 

[Schad]

Ever get the feeling The Sun get their info from reading this forum?

And they seem to have missed part of the context to Nixon's tweets, methinks; they're clearly even demanding more than 1m, because he wouldn't have added the "and some of the digits aren't zeroes" if it was 1,090,000 or some such.

 

[#42]

Looks like they want 600k each then

 

[- Doing The Lambert Walk]

Looks like they want 600k each then

That's what I thought. 5% is the norm, so they'll say they just want the norm.

However, there's two of them. So really they want 10% out of Nicola.

Nice try guys.....but you'll have to do better than that.

 

[Joe!]

Looks like they want 600k each then

Could be that, yeah. I'm fairly confident that they could be convinced to take £600k between them, as that is the standard rate, and hopefully Cortese would be okay with that figure, even though it's almost what we spent on all the agent fees combined last season.

They've clearly noticed how stingy Cortese can be with agent fees, so decided to go the other way with it and highball him to make a statement.

 

[Mikey]

If this deal somehow ends up getting completed it would be a greater tale than Saint Gaston.

As it is though...

 

[benditlikeabanana]

Now the agents are in the public eye it may push their hand to do what's best for their client, or it may harm their reputation and clubs may be put off dealing with them.

 

[fatletiss]

Be interesting to gauge the media/public reaction now; two unpopular parties in a public stand-off. Agents and Cortese.

 

[lamby]

It's on the BBC so must be true!

 

[Saints by name, Saints by nature]

Could anyone explain why it is the clubs which pay the agent fees? Surely if they are working for the player, then it is the player who should pay them? It would surely be easier for the club to deal directly with the player, I'm sure Cortese knows how to draw up a contract! It seems we pay extra for nothing in return.

 

[CambSaint]

I'm not convinced its all about greed, just Wanyama and agent trying to get Liverpool, Arsenal, Inter and any other club 'allegedly' interested in signing the player involved. I would think whatever they say in public isn't true, the truth is Wanyama wants to play for one of the 'big' clubs interested in him and they will say anything to delay Saints (without rejecting them fully) in the hope one of these teams comes in. I would imagine if one of these teams did have an offer accepted they wouldn't need to offer as much as we have in personal terms or fees.

If this is really how the player feels - he doesn't want to play for us - lets not waste anymore time on him. Great player thought he is, its more important to get a player in who believes in our dream and get him in sooner rather than later.

 

[lamby]

I'm not convinced its all about greed, just Wanyama and agent trying to get Liverpool, Arsenal, Inter and any other club 'allegedly' interested in signing the player involved. I would think whatever they say in public isn't true, the truth is Wanyama wants to play for one of the 'big' clubs interested in him and they will say anything to delay Saints (without rejecting them fully) in the hope one of these teams comes in. I would imagine if one of these teams did have an offer accepted they wouldn't need to offer as much as we have in personal terms or fees.

If this is really how the player feels - he doesn't want to play for us - lets not waste anymore time on him. Great player thought he is, its more important to get a player in who believes in our dream and get him in sooner rather than later.

Agree we need players who buy into the clubs vision. If he doesn't let's move on. Plenty more fish in the sea!

 

[fatletiss]

Could anyone explain why it is the clubs which pay the agent fees? Surely if they are working for the player, then it is the player who should pay them? It would surely be easier for the club to deal directly with the player, I'm sure Cortese knows how to draw up a contract! It seems we pay extra for nothing in return.

My only guess is that it could mean less tax. Saints pay the player (in wages or signing on fee) and it is taxed. Player pays agent and it is then taxed again, either as income tax or VAT for services provided.

 

[fatletiss]

If this is really how the player feels - he doesn't want to play for us - lets not waste anymore time on him. Great player thought he is, its more important to get a player in who believes in our dream and get him in sooner rather than later.

Agree we need players who buy into the clubs vision. If he doesn't let's move on. Plenty more fish in the sea!

Have you never had a girlfriend that was reluctant to go out on a date with you, only for her to find that after a date or two, you really are a nice guy and better than what people said and she starts to fall in love? Sometimes love at first sight doesn't happen. It's a bit like being left with only one girl to dance with at the school prom, so you reluctantly do it and end up being the only one to get laid

 

[Saint_Nom]

So this is one of the agents demanding £1million for the transfer of Wanyama. https://twitter.com/RobMooreSoccer