Saint Victor!
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Looks like the kind of guy who'll have Wanyama angling for a move from Saints next summer, and stirring **** up. Which begs the question of whether it's worth the hassle, although assume we'll make a profit if he has a good season.
Not that much...if you look at the fees posted earlier, and then consider the value of the contracts and transfer fees that were associated, no one is paying agents a percentage approaching what this guy wants. He's looking for a deal that would be around 10% of the money committed to Wanyama if it was a five-year deal, which is extortive.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...eague-new-boys-Cardiff.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
"Celtic reject £10m Wanyama bid from Premier League new boys Cardiff
Cardiff have been denied permission to speak to Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama after placing a £10million bid for the Kenyan.
Celtic have accepted £12m from Southampton but the South Coast club have not agreed terms with Wanyama.
Despite talk of the player holding further negotiations with Southampton, Wanyama's representative Ivan Modia said: 'It is completely untrue that we are holding talks with Southampton.
'They were made aware some weeks ago what the player was looking for. At that time they were not prepared to meet that so, as far as we are concerned, discussions with Southampton ended some weeks ago.
'The player is in Kenya and has no immediate plans for a quick return. The player will not be railroaded into a move that is not right for him.'"
"Celtic reject £10m Wanyama bid from Premier League new boys Cardiff
Cardiff have been denied permission to speak to Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama after placing a £10million bid for the Kenyan.
Celtic have accepted £12m from Southampton but the South Coast club have not agreed terms with Wanyama.
Despite talk of the player holding further negotiations with Southampton, Wanyama's representative Ivan Modia said: 'It is completely untrue that we are holding talks with Southampton.
'They were made aware some weeks ago what the player was looking for. At that time they were not prepared to meet that so, as far as we are concerned, discussions with Southampton ended some weeks ago.
'The player is in Kenya and has no immediate plans for a quick return. The player will not be railroaded into a move that is not right for him.'"
We should consider this closed...Celtic agreed the fee but the player greedily wants more money. Then his so called agent wants even more cash which as we know The Don will not put up with so let's move on to a more realistic target who isn't so greedy.
If any player or their agent thinks they can screw us is in for a real shock!
If any player or their agent thinks they can screw us is in for a real shock!
Although concerned for his agent's health if not accepted in the end, I am also reassured by Cortese's willingness to pay those sort of fee's too an agent, with recent reports I was thinking it was more likely in the hundred thousands. It also gives me confidence that if we don't do a deal with Wanyama, we'll find a equal alternative.
I don't actually think it's Wanyama being greedy. He just has a few arse holes around him that pretend to be his friends while they mug him off.
Hmm... and yet just today..!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23037626
Representatives of Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama are in talks with Southampton after a fee in the region of £12m was agreed between the two clubs. The Kenyan, 21, is keen to leave Celtic after two years in Glasgow but he has yet to agree personal terms. It is understood there is also interest from Southampton's Premier League rivals Cardiff City.
Wanyama joined Celtic for £900,000 from Beerschot in July 2011. The Kenya midfielder has been tipped to move to a richer club since starring in Celtic's Champions League group-stage win over Barcelona. And manager Neil Lennon has admitted he might struggle to keep his top players despite back-to-back title wins. In October, Lennon revealed that Wanyama had rejected the offer of a new contract beyond the four-year deal he signed when joining Celtic. After Wanyama shone at Champions League Lennon had suggested that the player was worth £25M.
I wish you were right:-
2012/13
Wigan - £8,300,000 spent on players and £1,974,305 on agent fees. 23.78%
West Ham - £19,750,000 spent on players and £4,436,992 on agent fees. 22.47%
Norwich - £9,000,000 spent on players and £1,248,725 on agent fees. 13.88%
Everton - £17,000,000 spent on players and £3,092,891 on agent fees 18.20%
Reading - £7,400,000 spent on players and £2,167,833 on agent fees 29.00%
Saints - £32,700,000 spent on players and £646,106 on agent fees 1.98%
(I got bored at this point)
The point seems to be that other than Southampton, this is entirely normal.....scary.
It's certainly a strange one. The Mail are the only place I've seen report this, so whether the quotes are fabricated or not, I'm not sure.
Might want to see what the market holds first. If Cardiff decides that it's too rich for their blood (either his fee or the transfer itself), and the interest from top seven teams fail to turn into an adequate pile of gold, I'm quite sure that he'll be in a haggling mood. But I doubt that he'd halve it today or tomorrow without exploring every avenue to exploit this.
Possible backtrack by Cortese's demands? Who knows. Heard somewhere he asks for deals to be kept quiet and "if it gets out, it's off".
That's only the transfers themselves...doesn't take into account wages, which are really going to be the drivers in most cases for agent fees. West Ham bought players for relatively paltry sums in terms of the transfer fees, but they paid substantial wages in the process.
Good for Saints, in my opinion. Agents know that the Premier League is a gravy train and exploit it as such. Cortese isn't going to be exploited and someone needs to take a stand against irresponsible spending. As usual, it's him who is doing it.
I bet the wages we paid to our new arrivals exceeded that of Reading and Wigan's new players combined. Also it's funny how the fees seems to average at about 20% of transfer expenditure...ridiculous.
Absolutely. I'm not contesting the fact that we pay less in fees than is normal; I am suggesting that what this agent is asking is beyond even that normal, though. Reading signed Pogrebnyak on a free, which generally involves larger agent fees, and to very high wages relative their size. I'd imagine that deal alone comprised a fairly large chunk of their outlay.
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