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Chelsea Pensioner said:
Sure did, but done by the same football fans who were also inside the stadiums where the seating meant they couldn't behave the same way. They would again have free reign in standing areas where supervision is far more difficult. I stood many many times in the dark ages with all sorts going on undetected, from blokes pissing, wallets being nicked, to darts being hurled around. It's all yours mate. Why don't you just stand up in front of your TV if you're so keen on standing?
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As you say, in the dark ages. In case you hadn't noticed, times move on.

Sorry to ruin another assumption on your part, but I attend matches both home and away. Stamford Bridge is a stadium I have attended, where the home fans are often allowed to stand while the away fans are forced to sit down by over zealous stewards. Now that's an oxymoron for you.
 
Chelsea Pensioner said:
Sure did, but done by the same football fans who were also inside the stadiums where the seating meant they couldn't behave the same way. They would again have free reign in standing areas where supervision is far more difficult. I stood many many times in the dark ages with all sorts going on undetected, from blokes pissing, wallets being nicked, to darts being hurled around. It's all yours mate. Why don't you just stand up in front of your TV if you're so keen on standing?
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This is absolute bollocks, sorry.
 
Chelsea Pensioner said:
Sure did, but done by the same football fans who were also inside the stadiums where the seating meant they couldn't behave the same way. They would again have free reign in standing areas where supervision is far more difficult. I stood many many times in the dark ages with all sorts going on undetected, from blokes pissing, wallets being nicked, to darts being hurled around. It's all yours mate. Why don't you just stand up in front of your TV if you're so keen on standing?
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Agree with this to an extent. I wonder how long it would take for the Neanderthals to reclaim their lost ground? Are those in favour of this dinosaur saying the atmosphere is better for standing? I don’t quite get that argument. Games today are controlled for a reason in my view and remember just how bad the old days were
 
The Ginger Finger said:
Agree with this to an extent. I wonder how long it would take for the Neanderthals to reclaim their lost ground? Are those in favour of this dinosaur saying the atmosphere is better for standing? I don’t quite get that argument. Games today are controlled for a reason in my view and remember just how bad the old days were
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No one is proposing bringing back crammed terraces with one barrier every half a dozen rows. No one is proposing not having seats for those who prefer to sit.

Currently we have a situation where thousands stand in an area for a whole match where it’s unsuitable/unsafe. Surely bespoke standing sections in some of the ground is a safer option than that.

The atmosphere is better with standing. I don’t see how anyone can begin to argue against that.
 
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West WindsR said:
No one is proposing bringing back crammed terraces with one barrier every half a dozen rows. No one is proposing not having seats for those who prefer to sit.

Currently we have a situation where thousands stand in an area for a whole match where it’s unsuitable/unsafe. Surely bespoke standing sections in some of the ground is a safer option than that.

The atmosphere is better with standing. I don’t see how anyone can begin to argue against that.
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What makes it better? If your team score you can all go crazy and surge forward uncontrollably en-masse?
 
The Ginger Finger said:
What makes it better? If your team score you can all go crazy and surge forward uncontrollably en-masse?
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It’s not uncontrolled for a start, hence it being safe standing rather than the old school style we still have in a few grounds such as Brentford. This argument keeps getting put forward but it’s like rejecting modern aircraft because you saw lots of planes crashing in the 30s.

It’s more just during the game rather than immediately after a goal. If you’re in a seated area there will be people behind who want to sit, especially at home games, so there will be people who ideally would stand and make noise but won’t out of consideration for others.

Look at the Germans. Look at Celtic. Why can’t English football fans be trusted to stand next to a rail and watch a football match but can be trusted to stand behind a row of seats? It’s illogical.
 
West WindsR said:
It’s not uncontrolled for a start, hence it being safe standing rather than the old school style we still have in a few grounds such as Brentford. This argument keeps getting put forward but it’s like rejecting modern aircraft because you saw lots of planes crashing in the 30s.

It’s more just during the game rather than immediately after a goal. If you’re in a seated area there will be people behind who want to sit, especially at home games, so there will be people who ideally would stand and make noise but won’t out of consideration for others.

Look at the Germans. Look at Celtic. Why can’t English football fans be trusted to stand next to a rail and watch a football match but can be trusted to stand behind a row of seats? It’s illogical.
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Are they going to pilot it at any grounds?
 
West WindsR said:
West Brom tried and failed. They have it in a corner at Celtic and it works well. There’s no lack of examples across Europe to see the benefits and flaws. The Liverpool fan group went to Celtic to check it out and endorsed it.
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So what were the flaws?
 
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