S.A.F.C. - the future

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

So this is what you are being told by your impeccable source then?

In essence yes...

This ‘news story’ which only NB’s is running With will not lead to take over as I don’t believe from shut ive been told there are even any talks ongoing

Yes, he’ll leave, he’ll have to but not yet. Probably thinks he’s got one more throw of the dice this season before giving up the ghost, despite him being adamant he’d leave when he wasn’t wanted any more... hence this has been concocted

Seems very very elaborate (especially for SD), but it’s also so elaborate (again for SD) that apart from a few posters on a message board and a local radio commentator that nothing else has been leaked from the club to the press despite everything else being leaked from players being sold to the kit man being asked to reply for his job and then leaving

You can look at it from either way

 

[Blyth_bucaneer]

From what he’s told me, no. Normally just tells me bits and pieces, but obviously this is a long running issue for the club, so this is our main discussion.

Can anyone tell me why CM is coming back/is back in a hands on role at the club, if it’s being sold in the next month?

Methven also said Juan would be more proactive from last December, so anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt, between Methven and Donald neither is capable of lying straight in bed.

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

I thought CM’s personal circumstances meant it wasn't possible for him to be doing anything hands on

I thought CM’s personal circumstances meant it wasn't possible for him to be doing anything hands on

And what’s his personal circumstances?

 

[Ozzymac]

From what he’s told me, no. Normally just tells me bits and pieces, but obviously this is a long running issue for the club, so this is our main discussion.

Can anyone tell me why CM is coming back/is back in a hands on role at the club, if it’s being sold in the next month?

Because he wants to make sure he gets the best return for his 6%.
Or he wants to stay involved with SD gone?

Now, not that i'm doubting you but if CM was back do you find it odd that no one has claimed to see him? It's not like nobody knows what he looks like.

Don't forget the rumours that he was the one that may or may not have bought FPP to the table or brokered the original deal with Short.

However i'm sure we'd all be interested for you to tell us just how hands on he is at the moment seeing as you're the first to mention it.

 

[C19RK73]

In essence yes...

This ‘news story’ which only NB’s is running With will not lead to take over as I don’t believe from shut ive been told there are even any talks ongoing

Yes, he’ll leave, he’ll have to but not yet. Probably thinks he’s got one more throw of the dice this season before giving up the ghost, despite him being adamant he’d leave when he wasn’t wanted any more... hence this has been concocted

Seems very very elaborate (especially for SD), but it’s also so elaborate (again for SD) that apart from a few posters on a message board and a local radio commentator that nothing else has been leaked from the club to the press despite everything else being leaked from players being sold to the kit man being asked to reply for his job and then leaving

You can look at it from either way

https://www.footballtransfertavern....keover-could-be-completed-by-october-1st/amp/

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/League+One/Sunderland/Owners+&+Directors

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...m-speaks-out-after-rejoining-cats-2963139?amp
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...al-and-what-theyve-said-about-bid-2924062?amp

do you want anymore media links or is it just Barnes?

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

But that's it - you are not stating its your view. The way you post, you seem to be stating "that this is what's going to happen, I'm right - other people are wrong. Wait till after the deadline and you'll see I'm right" kind of thing. Its the wording that people are pulling you up over.

What more can I say or do... obviously when I’m talking about what ‘will’ happen is my view as no one can predict the future

If people are pulling me up over the ‘wording’ then that’s for them. It’s the content that’s the important part surely. All we can do, is wait till sept... when I joined here after seeing Magnus post it was all sorted, agreed practically, just a few things to iron out... then the time scales changed as it was as far as people assumed and now it’s another 6 weeks

So it’s easy to pull up my wording but when something goes from being nearly completed to another 6/8 weeks then that’s fine and accepted

 

[Ozzymac]

What more can I say or do... obviously when I’m talking about what ‘will’ happen is my view as no one can predict the future

If people are pulling me up over the ‘wording’ then that’s for them. It’s the content that’s the important part surely. All we can do, is wait till sept... when I joined here after seeing Magnus post it was all sorted, agreed practically, just a few things to iron out... then the time scales changed as it was as far as people assumed and now it’s another 6 weeks

So it’s easy to pull up my wording but when something goes from being nearly completed to another 6/8 weeks then that’s fine and accepted

Sorry but you're alluding to your views as being "fact" and that everyone else is wrong.

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

Methven also said Juan would be more proactive from last December, so anything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt, between Methven and Donald neither is capable of lying straight in bed.

100%

and that is where this whole argument falls apart as if SD is NB’s source (which I believe he is) this whole take over talk is a sham

 

[Essayyeffcee]

In essence yes...

This ‘news story’ which only NB’s is running With will not lead to take over as I don’t believe from shut ive been told there are even any talks ongoing

Yes, he’ll leave, he’ll have to but not yet. Probably thinks he’s got one more throw of the dice this season before giving up the ghost, despite him being adamant he’d leave when he wasn’t wanted any more... hence this has been concocted

Seems very very elaborate (especially for SD), but it’s also so elaborate (again for SD) that apart from a few posters on a message board and a local radio commentator that nothing else has been leaked from the club to the press despite everything else being leaked from players being sold to the kit man being asked to reply for his job and then leaving

You can look at it from either way

Not really in my opinion. Do you really think that Nick Barnes is going to post what you state is nothing but a rumour started on social media or in a chat room website about a takeover, then go on local radio and a supporter podcast without there being any substance to it? It would be career suicide! I listened to the podcast and he said that he done his own due diligence on this and he is confident that something is happening. He also pointed out that he wouldn't set a deadline on when this would be completed because he couldn't guarantee it. I do agree with you when you state that Donald would cling on to the club just in case there's a chance of 1 big pay but IMO the decks stacked against him and if he doesn't get what he can now, he could lose a hell of a lot more hanging on.

 

[Ozzymac]

100%

and that is where this whole argument falls apart as if SD is NB’s source (which I believe he is) this whole take over talk is a sham

Now that's a real clutching at straws moment.

Barnes has said that he has checked and verified the information he has received is correct. Are you saying that he's bullshitting all of us as well?

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

Sorry but you're alluding to your views as being "fact" and that everyone else is wrong.

Like everyone on here they will share an opinion... that’s all I’m doing. My opinion is backed up from the fact there is no take over! I can’t give facts as Magnus % or time frames like Smug as there aren’t any to give, if nothing’s happening

And by nothing I mean a concrete plan to sell the club. Obviously there will always be talks, as they have been from the last 18 months, as SD gas wanted to sell and flip the club from day one, but they’ve lead to nothing... but something being passed to the EFL, I just don’t believe.

 

[Sandy Camel]

In essence yes...

This ‘news story’ which only NB’s is running With will not lead to take over as I don’t believe from shut ive been told there are even any talks ongoing

Yes, he’ll leave, he’ll have to but not yet. Probably thinks he’s got one more throw of the dice this season before giving up the ghost, despite him being adamant he’d leave when he wasn’t wanted any more... hence this has been concocted

Seems very very elaborate (especially for SD), but it’s also so elaborate (again for SD) that apart from a few posters on a message board and a local radio commentator that nothing else has been leaked from the club to the press despite everything else being leaked from players being sold to the kit man being asked to reply for his job and then leaving

You can look at it from either way

I only needed the 'yes' thanks. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't just you expressing your opinion and you're claiming ITK knowledge about Barnes being lied to and no takeover happening at all.

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

And what’s his personal circumstances?

I’m sure you know it’s an attempt at humour.

 

[MadMackem]

100%

and that is where this whole argument falls apart as if SD is NB’s source (which I believe he is) this whole take over talk is a sham

But Barnes has said he’s not an idiot and has done his own checks that confirmed his info

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

https://www.footballtransfertavern....keover-could-be-completed-by-october-1st/amp/

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/League One/Sunderland/Owners & Directors

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...m-speaks-out-after-rejoining-cats-2963139?amp
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...al-and-what-theyve-said-about-bid-2924062?amp

do you want anymore media links or is it just Barnes?

every link is written as a result of what Barnes has said. If NB’s has said nothing, these wouldn’t have been written. Local papers and a website who most of their stories from other publications

 

[Niall Quinn’s Dad]

Because he wants to make sure he gets the best return for his 6%.
Or he wants to stay involved with SD gone?

Now, not that i'm doubting you but if CM was back do you find it odd that no one has claimed to see him? It's not like nobody knows what he looks like.

Don't forget the rumours that he was the one that may or may not have bought FPP to the table or brokered the original deal with Short.

However i'm sure we'd all be interested for you to tell us just how hands on he is at the moment seeing as you're the first to mention it.

Not sure his exact role, not even sure or will be made official after he left under a cloud, but I’m sure it will happen and the press will find out

 

[Brixton Airshow]

Imagine SD did a 'Colleen Rooney' and made up the sale to weed out the leak in the club?!

"It's..... Nick Barnes"

eeee... the little tinker.

 

[Blyth_bucaneer]

100%

and that is where this whole argument falls apart as if SD is NB’s source (which I believe he is) this whole take over talk is a sham

I disagree, Donald and Methven were lying to take pressure from themselves at that time. This time around I actually don't think they are in a position to sustain the club, if this is a web of deceit and lies, it's more elaborate than a Vlad Putin poisoning.

 

[MadMackem]

And what’s his personal circumstances?

Its been well documented both on here and RTG for months what I am talking about

 

[Magnus]

From what he’s told me, no. Normally just tells me bits and pieces, but obviously this is a long running issue for the club, so this is our main discussion.

Can anyone tell me why CM is coming back/is back in a hands on role at the club, if it’s being sold in the next month?

Cm has no interest with the club and hasn’t returned, with his personal health he has a lot more on his plate, he wants out more then anyone