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Rose's Interview

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  1. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Cos he is richer than God. On past and current earnings, with endorsements and other income such as signing on fees and loyalty bonuses he will earn at least £30 as a spurs player. Seriously...what does it matter what someone else earns. Once you and yours are financially sorted does it matter? ****ing ego driven twats the lot of them imho.
     
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  2. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    BTW...not got a problem with you...I genuinely just do not get the greed
     
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  3. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    I've spent a lot of my professional career seeing lesser people
    earn more than me. But given since 1999 my ball-park daily rate
    is at least 300/day, I can get by. More so when the client project
    is technically stimulating for me.

    The reason I can do this is because I am not consumed by
    financial envy. < YMMV >
     
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  4. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    It's about feeling valued for your work and efforts and it seems, he doesn't. Look at it this way...

    You've been loyal to a company for years and have become a very influential and important figure in the team. You worked very hard and put in a lot of overtime to improve your performance and then got offered a wage increase by the boss as a result of your hard work and loyalty.

    A few months later, some new guy gets hired and he's clearly a long way short of where you are, needs to put the time in and pull his socks up if he's to become anywhere near as good as you (Sissoko). Then you find out he's on 50% more wages than you and barely puts in the time you've had to. You'd be pretty miffed mate.
     
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  5. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Just another way of apologising for Roses' greed.

    There are several players in the Spurs squad who have done same as /more
    than Rose for the cause, getting paid about the same as Rose, but have not
    publicly bit the hand that feeds (even though some of them would have greater
    grounds to do so IMHO) .
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    But signing players like Sissoko is exactly what he wants us to do (assuming you didn't need to google him)
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Back to more basic mattters ...

    When do people think Rose did this "interview" with The Sun
    (how long have they been sitting on it etc) ??
     
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  8. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    I didn't hear him complain two years ago. I also didn't hear City, UTD or Chelski making offers for him.
    It's not just greed but also remember where you were and who you were, and who made you get to where you are. He thanks Poch, recognises that it was him who made him, but is happy to put the knife in.
     
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  9. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    You clearly haven't read my previous posts on this subject. I'm merely playing devil's advocate to explain why he feels the way he does. How he went about doing it is an entirely different matter which makes him look greedy and foolish.

    Sissoko clearly doesn't fall into the category of quality signings that will challenge the squad now does it. When he signed last minute, everyone asked the question why - what will he add. The players will ask the same.
     
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  10. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Thing is, that offers an easy way out for the next player that wants to move. All you have to do is insult the players, criticise the club and you're free to move.

    I still think we should keep him for a season. He needs to perform if he wants to go to the World Cup so can't afford to sulk.

    Reading the fuller quotes really does stick the knife in more. He's talking **** about his teammates and starts talking about Barkley potentially joining which isn't going to help our negotiations. I've lost all respect for him and he needs to be made an example of.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Unfortunate that Spurs are not in the EL, as the group stages
    would be a fitting punishment. Mind you, given this interview
    I have little doubt he would play ill just like Adebayor did
    before him.
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Burn the agents on the way out and report whoever he's been talking to for tapping him up.
    Make sure that he doesn't join whichever ****ty club has provoked this and refuse to deal with them in future, stating it publicly.
    It's not something that we can do a lot about with our current financial situation.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    If only he wrote a ten-page memo that made him sound like a dickhead, before he confirmed he was a dickhead by sharing it with every employee at Spurs before dickheadedly acting surprised that he got ****canned for it...
     
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  14. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    We actually spend close to 50% of our revenue which is a lot lower than other clubs. Still, it's going to be very expensive once we raise our wage cap, which we will have to do over the next year.

    The higher the wage %age the more precarious the position you're in is. Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa and QPR all had high wage:revenue rates and when they bought badly it cost them their PL status. We can absorb the odd Adebayor, Sissoko, Soldado expensive mistake because ours is better. It's only clubs with bottomless pits of money that can afford to spend and have bad seasons, for everyone else it's like a rolling stone, picking up pace and getting worse and worse.

    When we raise our wage bill we need to make sure it's not reliant on CL money or anyother performance related income otherwise we're going to need to sell and suffer if we ever do miss targets.
     
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    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I doubt we'll find any evidence of tapping up, clubs are too careful now.

    I wouldn't mind us selling him to China but if they're not in for him then we're only going to get close to value by selling to a top PL side. With City already spending big on a left back, Liverpool seemingly unfamiliar on the concept of having a defence and Arsenal being absolutely out of the question, it really only leaves 2 sides and I'd far rather make them wait until we have a replacement lined up.

    Even then I think we need to stand firm and only accept players in return. The money isn't much good for us and we shouldn't allow them to buy from us if they refuse to sell to us. I'd take Rashford and the tubby one off United or no deal.
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    If we do sell him, for me the most ideal deal for us is Shaw plus cash from Utd.

    Shaw's got previous with Poch and knows the gaffer's demands, being a lot younger he can hopefully be moulded into the perfect Poch full back, like Danny became.

    Personally I'd rather shove Rose in the reserves and then let him watch Bertrand and Shaw get on the plane for the World Cup next summer but making a bit of dough and getting a replacement at the same time is probably the more sensible option.
     
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  17. LockStock

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    I think it's worth noting that since his outburst, everybody has pretty much focussed on his own personal desire for more money. In truth, he said that the whole team is worth more than they are getting. A simple look at the wage bill table next to the league position table proves this. Even if you account for the hyperinflation at the top clubs. This is partly why a new stadium is being built. Do we, who are gunning him for wanting more money, think that the collective wage bill will not go up after the stadium is built?

    He also said that he is reaching his peak and wants to win something. I totally get this. He is the best left back in England. It's right and fitting for him to have a strong desire to win things. England ain't winning the World Cup anytime soon. He would like to win something with Tottenham but is doubting it will happen before he is over the hill. Unless Tottenham add significant strength to the squad. He wants a repeat of the VDV excitement. This is nothing that we as fans don't agree with right now. Are we mad at Rose for wanting to win something with Tottenham?

    (I understand that Barkley is that player, for him. I'm not sure I agree there. Bale? Yes.)

    I understand that major injury layoffs can make you think about the fragility of your career, and I understand him freaking out in a mini meltdown in the frustration of being helplessly out of action. I imagine this kind of thing happens more often than we hear about.

    My main issue with the guy is not confiding in his self-professed "father figure", Pochettino, with this stuff and trusting him to put him straight and calm him down instead of throwing his toys and his ****ty nappy out of the pram so publicly. It makes us look less attractive as a team to potential players and it makes the club look a little silly and him even sillier to rival fans. It also gives the media and rival managers the tools with which to further destabilize the squad.

    Levy and Poch are businessmen who understand fully how the financials need to look in order to maintain the current trajectory that we are all enjoying, and as much as I don't like it, these magic deals always seem to happen at the end of the transfer window for us.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    This is why people comparing our wage bill to West Scam's falls so wide of the mark it probably never left the cannon to begin with: they have near as dammit no overheads to pay due to perfectly above board and non-shady dealings with the ex-Mayor of London and UK Athletics, and they don't have to pay them until 2115 at the earliest, so it doesn't matter that they're grossly overpaying Marko Arnautovic every week because by the time that will come back to bite the club on the backside those involved in the shady dealings will be long dead and not have to deal with the fallout they are personally responsible for.

    The fact that nobody at that club considered the probability that Arnautovic would likely follow the Roque Santa Cruz path of being loaned out every season until his contract ran out because it would be impossible to shift the player on the wages they get every week speaks volumes, too.
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Liverpool aren't! <laugh>

    City only have one left-back and Guardiola wasn't content with just Walker on the right, so I think they're still in for a left-back.
    The alternatives are horrific. Send the ****er back to Leeds.
     
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  20. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    We should demand Mendy and Walker in exchange.
     
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