Rodwell

[The Norton Cat]

The beauty of football!! In my working world (and most on here no doubt) we'd be hung drawn and quartered (metaphorically speaking). A footballer is offered a wage. Can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't break any of the clubs rule (Adam Johnson for instance) and pick up their money! Yeah I'd be working my arse off for someone offering me silly money. Footballers don't have to as there is nothing in their contracts about performance etc. Which is why the whole thing is in such a financial mess (few clubs breaking even over a year)

I'm aware that they are not compelled to put the effort in. Rodwell isn't the first to have behaved this way. But I'm not talking about what their contracts say, I'm talking about being able to hold your head up and take pride in your work. Rodwell is talking about how he's good enough to play for England but he's not showing any determination to get in to our first team.

 

[Big Ern]

Believe it or not to some people money isn't the most important thing in the world.

given the choice between having 5m to sit around for 18months and not having 5m to sit around for 18months the amount of people who would take the latter is very small. I doubt anyone on this forum would pass up 5m. I totally understand where you are coming from, it's a player bleeding your club, but if you were in the same position you'd probably do exactly the same. Money isn't that important to me, but I'd be a liar if I said I would pass it up, and I'd call into question anyone's honesty that said they would.

 

[jdsafc]

given the choice between having 5m to sit around for 18months and not having 5m to sit around for 18months the amount of people who would take the latter is very small. I doubt anyone on this forum would pass up 5m. I totally understand where you are coming from, it's a player bleeding your club, but if you were in the same position you'd probably do exactly the same. Money isn't that important to me, but I'd be a liar if I said I would pass it up, and I'd call into question anyone's honesty that said they would.

Who is that in your picture?

 

[Burly Hurley]

Who is that in your picture?

Looks like Bill Murray to me.

 

[Nacho]

given the choice between having 5m to sit around for 18months and not having 5m to sit around for 18months the amount of people who would take the latter is very small. I doubt anyone on this forum would pass up 5m. I totally understand where you are coming from, it's a player bleeding your club, but if you were in the same position you'd probably do exactly the same. Money isn't that important to me, but I'd be a liar if I said I would pass it up, and I'd call into question anyone's honesty that said they would.

In that scenario yeah I may well find myself taking the money, I'm not so much saying that he should just tear up the contract and leave though, my issues are that I'm not convinced he's going to lift a finger to try and find a new club or bother to perform for Sunderland in the meantime.

If it was me I'd be busting a gut to try and get a move to another club sorted where I would be on a lower wage but still a very good one relatively speaking.

 

[Big Ern]

Looks like Bill Murray to me.

aye, it's Murray as Big Ernie McCracken,bowling legend.

In that scenario yeah I may well find myself taking the money, I'm not so much saying that he should just tear up the contract and leave though, my issues are that I'm not convinced he's going to lift a finger to try and find a new club or bother to perform for Sunderland in the meantime.

If it was me I'd be busting a gut to try and get a move to another club sorted where I would be on a lower wage but still a very good one relatively speaking.

Me too, or at least I'd be in my agent's ear daily (which he may very well be doing), but the offer the cub has put on the table is walk away with nothing, next to no one would take that deal.

 

[red&white wanderer]

Jack Rodwell knows Sunderland want to rip up his £70,000-a-week contract and he is willing to leave but only for a new club: 'It's not about money, I need to play. I want people to say: "Wow, Jack's back"'

• Sunderland signed Jack Rodwell from Manchester City for £10m in 2014
• The 26-year-old still has 18 months left to run on his £70,000-a-week deal
• However, the Black Cats want to tear up contract and let him leave on free
• Rodwell insists he is fit - and is also hoping to add to his three England caps
• IAN HERBERT: Sky-high wages create toxic environment for stars who fail

By CRAIG HOPE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:18, 17 January 2018 | UPDATED: 22:42, 17 January 2018

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Jack Rodwell is considering the frustration of his current situation when he reveals one motivation for the future. He wants his son to grow up remembering him as the footballer who played matches, scored goals and won trophies.
He does not want this, leaving the family home before it is light and returning after dark, training three times a day — every day — away from his senior team-mates.
'I want Hudson to be proud,' Rodwell says of his two-year-old boy. 'I want him to see me play, to enjoy coming to matches.'

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Jack Rodwell sat down to speak with Sportsmail to clarify his current position at Sunderland

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It was revealed this week that the Black Cats have offered to rip up his £70,000-per-week dea

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Rodwell himself was a boy of 16 when, 10 years ago last month, he became the youngest European debutant in Everton's history. He was, we all said, a future England captain and his international bow duly arrived aged 20. A £12million move to Manchester City followed and with it a Premier League title.
So how has it come to this? Newspaper headlines earlier this week revealed that Sunderland have offered to rip up his £70,000-per-week contract, which has 18 months to run.
He is not in Chris Coleman's first-team plans and accepts his time at the Championship's bottom club is up. Sunderland did not insert a relegation wage-reduction clause in his five-year deal when he joined from City for £10m in 2014 and, given the club's current financial peril, they are willing to let him leave on a free transfer.
Sitting here in Rodwell's Northumberland home, he reveals a range of emotions — from irritation to optimism, regret and excitement. But, perhaps most significantly, he is fit.
'Listen, I'm training three times a day, I feel great. It's the fittest I've ever been, in a weird way, and that's without playing,' he says.

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'It's the best condition I've been in for a long time and hopefully someone will reap the benefits of that. I've not spat my dummy out, I'm getting on with it, trying to turn the situation into a positive.
'This is my hardest spell here but there would be no use in me slacking off or huffing, I need to use this time to get ready for whatever is next. That excites me. I need a new challenge.
'I'm only 26. I feel like I've been in the game for a long time and people can't believe I'm still so young. I've been at Man City and won the league, I've played for England, I've had success and good times, just not enough for someone of my ability.
'Luckily, I'm young enough to change that. It's down to me now, no one else. My hunger is greater than ever, and that's out of pure frustration.
'I want to write off this negative period and go again with some positive momentum.'
Some supporters have suggested Rodwell should walk away from Sunderland, freeing them of the financial commitment. That, however, is an unrealistic demand of any person.

'I think it's unfair to ask that of a player,' he says. 'I haven't put in a transfer request but I understand the club's stance and their position and, because of that, I understand it's beneficial for everyone if I move on.
'But it's not the fault of any footballer if a club decides to pay you a certain amount. I have worked from seven years old to get here; to then ask someone to just throw it away, that's difficult.
'I never wanted this. I joined Sunderland, a great club, to be successful, to feel at home again.
'It hasn't worked out, but that's not through lack of effort.
'Now, for me, it's not about money, it's about playing. If that means moving on to help the club in a situation that suited all parties, I would need no convincing. I'm a footballer, I want a football club.
'Why would I just walk away and be left jobless? The transfer window has two weeks to run and I'm prepared to do anything to play — any decision will be based on the chance to play football, not money.'

Rodwell says he is ready should Coleman need him for Saturday's visit of Hull. That is unlikely and there is a feeling that his first-team exile is as much a financial decision as a footballing one.
Rodwell's exit would afford Coleman some much-needed room for manoeuvre in the transfer market. There is, however, no escaping that his time at the Stadium of Light has, for both player and club, been a waste of three and a half years.
There was a much-publicised run of 37 starts without a win but, as he points out, 'we didn't win many games in that period anyway'.
Rodwell does, though, protest when it comes to his fitness record.
He has made 76 appearances for the club but insists that would have been more had he been selected when available.

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'A lot is made of my injuries and yes, I've had niggles and muscle problems,' he says. 'Some managers haven't picked me and my form has played a part at times as well.
'But my availability has been good here, one season it was over 90 per cent. There was a period under Sam (Allardyce) when was I playing regularly and playing well.
'Sadly, Sam left for England. I've never had a career-threatening injury and I'm always looking for new ways to prevent those niggles. Touch wood, that seems to be working right now.'
It was in 2013 when Rodwell won the last of his three England caps, against Brazil in the Maracana, no less. Others may be sceptical, but he repeatedly makes the claim that he can add to that number.

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'I do believe I'm a Premier League player and I do believe I'm an England international when I'm fit and on form,' he says.
'Whether I have to take a backwards step first to prove that, I'm open to it, if that's what it takes I will do whatever to get back.
'Growing up through the England ranks I was captain and those three senior caps have left me wanting more. I still think it's well within my reach, especially at centre back. I just need a good run where I can really express myself and people say, "Wow, Jack's back".'
It is interesting that he sees his career revival in defence, the position in which he played until his breakthrough at Everton.
'It was only when I was fast-tracked into the first team, they put me in midfield, it was a bit safer,' he says. 'I do wonder, "What if?" If I'd just said, "I'm a centre back", where would I be now?
'The game has changed a lot. Centre backs now are ball-playing and a lot of midfielders drop in there. I know the position. I'm big enough, I'm quick enough, I'm good in the air. I've got the tools.'

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Rodwell says he would make the same decision to join City aged 21 and the same is true of his move to Sunderland two years later. It is only with hindsight, he says, that things have not worked out.
Rodwell's next decision is vital. What will he be saying if we speak to him again in five years' time?
'I want to be talking about more England caps and having played with a smile on my face, enjoying it,' he says. 'I think that's so achievable. I'm excited. All I can do now is look forward.'
We leave Rodwell as he prepares to help his wife, Alana, with Hudson's bedtime routine. He is dreaming of a happy future, for him and his son.

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Well he certainly talks the talk but has walked the walk (well sort of, but in a trance like dream)
Yes, he probably does need a new challenge but well away from our bad memories

 

[rooch 3]

Something I don’t understand is if he has a free transfer does he not keep the whole fee he is bought for himself he should be quids in even if he only gets &20/30,000 a week or am I wrong somewhere?

 

[Nacho]

aye, it's Murray as Big Ernie McCracken,bowling legend.

Me too, or at least I'd be in my agent's ear daily (which he may very well be doing), but the offer the cub has put on the table is walk away with nothing, next to no one would take that deal.

Yeah I agree, I guess the club don't really expect him to take up the offer but it makes it clear to anyone else that we want rid and they're welcome to take him for free.

I wonder if they will and what kind of wage cut he'd accept, if any.

 

[ZendensdodgyMoves]

I feel sorry for Rodwell, he obviously has mental health issues believing he is still good enough to play CB for England!

Come on Jack, wake up kidda!

 

[Gordon Armstrong]

Offering to cancel his contract where he walks away with nothing may well be just a starting point in someone's haggling process that is common in business, as well as in private life, so there might be some development(s) in the near future when he/his agent replies

I'm hoping that this is the case and we might get rid of him this month

 

[Teessidemackem]

Lets all make a pact. If any of us see him round the north east (without his kids), we have to give him a smack in the mouth. First person to have photographic evidence wins a prize .

 

[Nads]

I say right now if I was him would I **** walk away from £5million.

He’s not a Sunderland lad, he gives no ****s about the club.

If I was at his beloved Everton, I’d be sucking that teet dry as well.

 

[Nordic]

He has no self respect at all imo.

... and so no respect for anyone else. He’s a ****, mate.

I just want to smash his “deer in the headlights” face in. Hopefully the U23s take him to task..

Lets all make a pact. If any of us see him round the north east (without his kids), we have to give him a smack in the mouth. First person to have photographic evidence wins a prize .

You’re on! Any location though, not just the north east!

 

[Brian Storm]

I say right now if I was him would I **** walk away from £5million.

He’s not a Sunderland lad, he gives no ****s about the club.

If I was at his beloved Everton, I’d be sucking that teet dry as well.

I would have volunteered the same paycut as the players on relegation so not to ostracize myself from team mates, fans and club and diminish my chance of successfully reigniting my career when I left, knowing full well I'd failed on the football front making myself the model pro, the type of player managers will take a chance on cause of a great attitude. This rate he'll get his 5 million and still lose money playing a low level for 4 grand a week. He's only 26 and pure damaged goods.

 

[Gil T Azell]

He's a c*nt. An international class c*nt and I hope the tw*t suffers a really miserable existence for the rest of his days. Which hopefully wont be many. He has took the p*ss out of this club long enough and gave absolutely sweet FA in return.

 

[Billy Death]

He's a c*nt. An international class c*nt and I hope the tw*t suffers a really miserable existence for the rest of his days. Which hopefully wont be many. He has took the p*ss out of this club long enough and gave absolutely sweet FA in return.

Very eloquently put Gil.
I hope he gets Farmer Giles worse than I do & he suffers an anal prolapse everytime he go's for a ****.

 

[Reggie the Cheddar]

The epitome of modern football. Just a mercenary with no loyalty no humility and no honour or pride.
Since his move to City money has been far more important to him than being a top sportsman. To try and play the victim when he's bled us dry is the final insult. Surely he knows his position here is untenable after his conformation of greed and delusion. He can never wear the shirt again and he made sure of that in his interview. So what happens now? He won't play, he won't leave? So he's happy to rake in a fortune for nothing while others employed by the same company are being made redundant and losing the relative pittance they were getting in the first place. What an awful human.

 

[RTB]

Lets all make a pact. If any of us see him round the north east (without his kids), we have to give him a smack in the mouth. First person to have photographic evidence wins a prize .

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[Billy Death]

Can anyone think of a single redeeming feature this lad has brought to SAFC?