Rodgers Sacked

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InBiscanWeTrust said:
But some of those wins, could easily have been draws... the win against Stoke was won by a long range strike.. Bournemouth a dodgy goal and Villa well, 3-2 could easily be a draw.

As many have said though, it's not just the results.... no one has enjoyed watching us for a season and 8 games now. Last year, we were dull... this year, we're still dull. There is no excitement to our play.

Now whether the owners care about that is different matter, but to us fans, performance is more important than results a lot of the time. We all watch the game to be entertained, and us fans are bored with the way we've been playing and it's been that way far too long.

Also, 1 trophy in 10 years.... the LC should be a bloody priority because we should be winning things. Rest players for the Europa league... would you rest players for the CL? No... (unless you're Wenger). You play your best team in CL otherwise what's the point and the same should be in the Europa. What's the point of getting in it then not trying to win it... an extra 13/15 games to the season? So....? It's only 2 more games than there would be if you went all the way in the CL.

You win the game, then rest key players... or win the group and rest players. If we'd have won the first 2 games, you could win 1 more than start resting players... people should not be tired and need resting 5 -10 games into the season.
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Look I'm not saying I'm not saying you were on track this season, just that he should've been given more time once you decided to go with him for this season. Arsenal fans were spitting blood after back to back losses. 2 wins later and it all looked much rosier again. Even the embarrassing home loss to Olympiakos has been forgiven after the result today. Who knows, maybe Rodgers would've beaten us(he usually does) and then gone on a good run of form. With the way the next fixtures are set up 2 wins make a huge difference with so many of the sides above you playing eachother.

I get what you're saying about style of football and whilst I am using "you" a lot, what I mean is the club and specifically FSG. They chose to keep him and in my opinion they should've stuck by that decision at such an early stage in the season. Personally I don't think your team has been boring this season, just a little clueless and lacking balance.

Ah well, I didn't mean to get into such a long conversation about it. Back to the Spurs board for me... until we beat you on Saturday <monster>
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Tadpole? Socking...

Axolotls are unusual among amphibians in that they reach adulthood without undergoing metamorphosis. Instead of developing lungs and taking to land, the adults remain aquatic and gilled

They're a not fully developed salamander
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Fish are weird ****s, I kept swordtails, one of the older females eventually grew a dong <yikes> Something to do with hormones, but they cannot fertilise other females
 
I think the main problem Rodgers had was the loss of Suarez and Sturridge, the latter due to injury. When we had them both firing on all guns it gave Rodgers delusions of adequacy in his management capabilities. Once he lost them we saw his constant chopping and changing of systems, playing players in the wrong positions, poor defensive strategy and poor transfers, ( although the committee may have played no small part in this aspect).

In the end I think it was the aimless performances that finished him, the team did not seem confident in what they were doing, or maybe did not understand what he was after.

But now it is onward and upward, hopefully.
 
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Gerrez said:
We're already split between Klopp and Ancelotti, assuming its only between those two of course <laugh>
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Ancelotti earns respect immediately, just purely down to achievement he gets respect alone. Certainly is a draw for the better players out there more so than Klopp

Klopp is a bit of an unKown and a new Klub will be a bit of an unKnown to him too, He's not that old and been at Dortmund a fair few years.
 
Yid Vicious said:
Look I'm not saying I'm not saying you were on track this season, just that he should've been given more time once you decided to go with him for this season. Arsenal fans were spitting blood after back to back losses. 2 wins later and it all looked much rosier again. Even the embarrassing home loss to Olympiakos has been forgiven after the result today. Who knows, maybe Rodgers would've beaten us(he usually does) and then gone on a good run of form. With the way the next fixtures are set up 2 wins make a huge difference with so many of the sides above you playing eachother.

I get what you're saying about style of football and whilst I am using "you" a lot, what I mean is the club and specifically FSG. They chose to keep him and in my opinion they should've stuck by that decision at such an early stage in the season. Personally I don't think your team has been boring this season, just a little clueless and lacking balance.

Ah well, I didn't mean to get into such a long conversation about it. Back to the Spurs board for me... until we beat you on Saturday <monster>
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I think he'd have gone in the summer had the right man been available. I think that is why Ancelotti and Klopp are being so heavily linked, both said they wanted a break from the game. They've both had almost five months away, maybe one of them as decided they're ready for a return?
 
BringBackFootie. said:
Ancelotti earns respect immediately, just purely down to achievement he gets respect alone. Certainly is a draw for the better players out there more so than Klopp

Klopp is a bit of an unKown and a new Klub will be a bit of an unKnown to him too, He's not that old and been at Dortmund a fair few years.
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Klopp is more or less the same as when Rafa arrived; fairly young manager with a high reputation having done well and won things in one country despite the dominance in said country by certain clubs (or club in Klopp's case). Also done well in Europe although granted, not as well as Rafa had.

I agree Ancelotti as the bigger CV. Its hard to argue with fact <laugh>
 
Ian Thumwood said:
To most Southampton fans this seems like just desserts. It was difficult to like Rodgers due to his continued poaching of our better players and his comment about having no sympathy for us as we didn't have to sell. There was also the comment about Liverpool welcoming their feeder club when we played in an opening game at Anfield last season. It is difficult not to gloat at another Liverpool manager getting the chop and his sacking is perhaps demonstrative of Liverpool's demise from a team under Shankly and Paisley that was genuinely loved by the footballing audience and cheered on in their regular European triumphs to a cocky, arrogant team with most non-Liverpool fans loving Gerrard's hilarious slip up that summed up their failure to capture the title. I think Rodgers has probably done more harm to the reputation of the club amongst fans of other teams than any other previous Liverpool manager with the affection that you enjoyed back in the 1970's long since evaporated. Rodger's arrogance was an anathema to supporters of other clubs who, like me, grew up in the 1970's and witnessed a team that, like Clough's Forest ,generated a degree of national pride in their European forays. Hopefully his will get what is de to him and end up at Sunderland!
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Is that Ent for "i'm bitter and gloating"? it takes a loooong tiiiiiime to say anything in ooooooooold Entish
 
I want Klopp personally, though doubt it will happen. Highly attractive brand of football with Dortmund and put them very much "back on the map". Decent success in Europe and domestically, good eye for a bargain in the transfer market, takes no nonsense and I have no doubt will understand the history and the tradition of the club and embrace the challenge, for me he ticks all the boxes.

In reality though, we'll get De Boer.
 
Gerrez said:
Klopp is more or less the same as when Rafa arrived; fairly young manager with a high reputation having done well and won things in one country despite the dominance in said country by certain clubs (or club in Klopp's case). Also done well in Europe although granted, not as well as Rafa had.

I agree Ancelotti as the bigger CV. Its hard to argue with fact <laugh>
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You mean one club not country?<whistle> Rafa had been at quite a few clubs by Klopp's age and had a hell of a lot of experience

Edit: but you said that already.. <doh>
 
Gerrez said:
I think he'd have gone in the summer had the right man been available. I think that is why Ancelotti and Klopp are being so heavily linked, both said they wanted a break from the game. They've both had almost five months away, maybe one of them as decided they're ready for a return?
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True. I'd be surprised if at least one of them isn't waiting for the Bayern job though. Klopp might be thinking about the Chelsea job too, even if Mourinho gets through this season okay I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. I think it would be very impressive if you got Ancelotti, a real statement of intent. I'm not sold on Klopp and think it would be a risk.

I know De Boer's been mentioned, are there anyothers you guys would consider?
 
BringBackFootie. said:
You mean one club not country?<whistle> Rafa had been at quite a few clubs by Klopp's age and had a hell of a lot of experience
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His reputation was mainly built on his time at one club; Valencia!

Klopp's been a manager for fourteen years. Rafa had only been a manager for eleven years when he came to us.
 
Yid Vicious said:
True. I'd be surprised if at least one of them isn't waiting for the Bayern job though. Klopp might be thinking about the Chelsea job too, even if Mourinho gets through this season okay I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. I think it would be very impressive if you got Ancelotti, a real statement of intent. I'm not sold on Klopp and think it would be a risk.

I know De Boer's been mentioned, are there anyothers you guys would consider?
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Klopp has previous said he wouldn't want to join an already establish (Bayern, Barca, Real) or money rich (Chelsea, Man City, PSG) club, he wants a project.
 
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Gerrez said:
But his reputation was mainly built on his time at one club; Valencia!

Klopp's been a manager for fourteen years. Rafa had only been a manager for eleven years when he came to us.
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Rafa has won promoton and stuff with real youth and B and managed at a few other clubs too didn't he?

Klopp 14 years? didn't think he was at it that long. What's Klopp's record prior to Dortmund?
 
BringBackFootie. said:
Rafa has won promoton and stuff with real youth and B and managed at a few other clubs too didn't he?

Klopp 14 years? didn't think he was at it that long. What's Klopp's record prior to Dortmund?
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He managed Mainz from 2001-2008

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He's only won things with Dortmund though...

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Klopp might get us a few bargains from the German league as well... Germans are the way to go at the moment <ok>
 
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