Why is it taboo to criticise Liverpool fans over their part in Hillsborough and Heysel? They always play the equivalent of the "race" card when you do. Why don't they accept that a large group of tanked up Scousers played a huge part in both events? Whatever the failings of the authorities to deal appropriately with the aftermath of each incident, the Liverpool fans were culpable to some extent for the cause of both.
Every time, it's the same excuse: "It was the police and the stadium what done it" - gaf71 tried that on here a few weeks ago regarding Heysel.
The police didn't rush the Juventus fans at Heysel which led to the tragedy (and the club's attempt to blame Chelsea fans with false claims of hearing southern accents in the stands was lower than any t-shirt slogan) and their fans clearly didn't learn because the next time they were in a European Cup/Champions League final in 2005, once again their fans were trying to rush into the stadium without tickets or using forged ones (and, in some cases, stole them from fellow supporters), and the exact same happened two years later in Athens.
Whilst there is no denying the way the police handled the build-up was an utter shambles and Leppings Lane had already been demonstrated to be unsafe (there was a crush in the '81 FA Cup semi between Spurs and Wolves that left 38 injured, which should have set alarm bells ringing) the version of events we're told is the police willingly let Liverpool fans die, which is not the case. The main reason the police ****ed up so badly was the late arrival of some fans via the M62, who were still outside the ground when the game had kicked off and were bustling to get in (and, as
one eyewitness account testifies, some fans were getting in without valid tickets, or were climbing over the turnstiles without having a ticket at all)
Hillsborough was an utterly terrible thing to happen that could've been prevented in so many ways, and there's no denying that - even the waste of blood and organs that make vile chants about it should be able to realise this simple fact if they were capable of exhibiting vaguely human qualities - but some thing that continues to elude me is how it's remained a major talking point all these years later yet many other terrible tragedies (the two Ibrox disasters, the Valley parade fire, Heysel, the Luzhniki disaster, the Ellis park disaster) seem to have been all but forgotten.