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I totally agree, VAR should never have been manned by the refs from the same panel of people as the on field refs. Even if they used to retired old refs though if Peter Waltons opinions on BT are anything to go by they would be as bad the current crop. So overseas refs is the way forward.
Peter Walton is absolutely appalling. Whenever it cuts to him and his “analysis” I know it will just be him backing up what the referee and VAR said, never calling them out. Complete waste of time.
 
Peter Walton is absolutely appalling. Whenever it cuts to him and his “analysis” I know it will just be him backing up what the referee and VAR said, never calling them out. Complete waste of time.
So, the ref on the pitch is wrong, the VAR ref is wrong and a guest ex ref is wrong?
Ever thought it might just be you?
 
So, the ref on the pitch is wrong, the VAR ref is wrong and a guest ex ref is wrong?
Ever thought it might just be you?
Yes. It's not, though.
The ref makes a mistake, his mate backs him up, then their public representative claims that they were both right.
It happened earlier this year and then the one of their ex-officials undermined them all by saying that they'd all got it wrong.
The three **** ups for penalties on the same day springs to mind.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841

They don't want to admit their **** ups and it's damaging the game.
 
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Yes. It's not, though.
The ref makes a mistake, his mate backs him up, then their public representative claims that they were both right.
It happened earlier this year and then the one of their ex-officials undermined them all by saying that they'd all got it wrong.
The three **** ups for penalties on the same day springs to mind.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841

They don't want to admit their **** ups and it's damaging the game.
So one guy who wants to make a name for himself is right and the others are just backing up their mates <laugh> <ok>
 
So one guy who wants to make a name for himself is right and the others are just backing up their mates <laugh> <ok>
Have you seen those decisions? They're absolutely ludicrous. Nobody agreed with them in the post-match analysis.
Fernandes fouled the Villa defender, Ward-Prowse dived really blatantly and King pushed Kane in the back.
They were all awful decisions.

The Premier League admitted that they'd ****ed it up:
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Have you seen those decisions? They're absolutely ludicrous. Nobody agreed with them in the post-match analysis.
Fernandes fouled the Villa defender, Ward-Prowse dived really blatantly and King pushed Kane in the back.
They were all awful decisions.

The Premier League admitted that they'd ****ed it up:
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The only one i can honestly say i have seen is the Bruno one and i accept fully it was wrong.
I only ever counter stuff on here because most of it is comical, Spurs rules V real rules <laugh>
 
So, the ref on the pitch is wrong, the VAR ref is wrong and a guest ex ref is wrong?
Ever thought it might just be you?
Don’t get me wrong every fan has an element of bias when watching their own team but this is virtually every decision backing up the ref and never calling them out. As PNP has illustrated it would be nice once in a while if they could just admit they got it wrong.
 
Yes. It's not, though.
The ref makes a mistake, his mate backs him up, then their public representative claims that they were both right.
It happened earlier this year and then the one of their ex-officials undermined them all by saying that they'd all got it wrong.
The three **** ups for penalties on the same day springs to mind.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841

They don't want to admit their **** ups and it's damaging the game.

There seems to be some serious collective hubris with football
refs on their decision making, which I do not see in rugby.
 
Don’t get me wrong every fan has an element of bias when watching their own team but this is virtually every decision backing up the ref and never calling them out. As PNP has illustrated it would be nice once in a while if they could just admit they got it wrong.
Have you never seen VAR over rule the ref on field?
 
No, you counter stuff because you're trying to wum and doing an awful job of it.
Well if wum is what it's supposed to mean i do quite well <ok>

The problem is, people don't like a different opinion telling them they are wrong. Scousers i wum (or try to), you lot just wum yourselves when confronted with the truth.
 
Well if wum is what it's supposed to mean i do quite well <ok>

The problem is, people don't like a different opinion telling them they are wrong. Scousers i wum (or try to), you lot just wum yourselves when confronted with the truth.
You've been proven not only wrong in the last ten minutes, but not having seen the incidents that you're complaining about.
The truth is that you're talking **** for attention.
 
Yep. Fernandes penalty against us. He dived and VAR saw that he did. Didn't card the cheating ****er, though.
He didn't dive, he fell over when trying to spin(and probably committed a foul in doing so by standing on the defenders foot). Was it a pen, no, was it a dive, no.
This is why people laugh at this board.
 
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He didn't dive, he fell over when trying to spin(and probably committed a foul in doing so by standing on the defenders foot). Was it a pen, no, was it a dive, no.
This is why people laugh at this board.
He dived. He does it all the time. He's a consistent cheat.
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