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Riga proving the "Powell Groupies" were wrong

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by User deleted as requested, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

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    How is that the same as all the name-calling you go in for? As far as I recall I've never called you anything.

    I took exception (not offence) to it because it was such a loaded term, and using loaded terms without justification isn't a good way to debate.
     
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  2. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

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    Did you buy the VOTV last Saturday ? Ex employee Matt Wright told some interesting tales of Pardew's time at Charlton. "Mr Popular" he wasn't.
     
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  3. Ponders Revisited

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    There seems to be a bit of one-sidedness about this debate. The CP supporters have been able to eulogise the great man, but as soon as anyone points out the improvements made since his departure, they are shouted down and accused of 'rubbing people's noses in it'.

    Having gone out of the cup without so much as a whimper, and then dropping to the bottom of the league, it was (in my opinion) the right decision to sack CP when we did. It was too much of a risk to assume or hope CP could get us out of the bottom three, so RD acted at the right time, and JR should be applauded for the way in which he has galvanised our team.

    It is easy to confuse praise for JR with criticism of Powell, and both sides will always think they're right, but at least it makes for good reading and banter.
     
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  4. User deleted as requested

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    "Brigade" wasn't a loaded term to anyone other than paranoid left wing conspiracy theorist (which I am not saying you are, before you start).
    Interesting thread on CL today about at what level Powell's next job in football will be. Talk of a Premier League post from some is the sort of delusion normally only brought on by a bad case of malaria. I would suggest Orient or Brentford - level clubs.
     
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    <cheers> ...<applause>
     
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  6. Captain Blackaddick

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    It is. It conjures up images of the Charge of the Light Brigade, and it makes those you describe with it seem small in number, hopelessly old-fashioned and ridiculous. You could have just said 'those who support Chris Powell'. That would have been an unloaded, neutral term. Studying Critical Discourse Analysis, as I have been doing at university, makes you aware of these things.

    We've gone off-topic again.
     
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  7. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    I'm confident James Gee would agree with me when I label Vol as an N-identity.
     
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  8. Miketyson2007

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    The anti chris Powell stuff is getting a tad boring now ... He's gone you got your way ... Riga is the greatest manager in our history and RD has the clubs best interests at heart.. There you go sorted !
     
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  9. Ponders Revisited

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    Do you know for sure that RD does not have the club's best interests at heart? I ask this because the evidence suggests our new owner does care about the long-term future of the club. The academy investment, the new pitch, the climb up the table, and the potential transfer targets all point towards a bright new dawn for Charlton Athletic. Surely we should be embracing the new leadership both on and off the pitch, eh?
     
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  10. Miketyson2007

    Miketyson2007 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him owning loads of clubs ain't right shouldn't be allowed in my book.
     
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  11. charltonted

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    In another thread I have said that JR is more attacking minded & adventurous than the cautious CP & not afraid to make changes. But he cannot make this bunch of players a goal machine. He should keep us up with this return. But what of next season ? Are you happy with this ratio of goals to games or will you be demanding money to spend & change ?
     
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  12. Whats up Doc

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    Yes we do...we wouldn't have.
     
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  13. Captain Blackaddick

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    You've been to that alternative universe where Powell is still in charge then?

    All that is is your opinion. Not fact. My opinion is different.
     
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  14. IA

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    He will be demanding that the manager (whoever it is) be sacked.
     
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  15. ForestHillBilly

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    My favourite campaign was the "Nelson Out" campaign, which I believe ran 1980-1982. He actually got sacked TWICE. It was much more fun than firing in angry e-mails at anyone who didn't want him sacked. We had chants like "Ayatollah Ayatollah out out out", and songs like
    I love to go a-Nelsonning
    Down the Valley of sin
    I love to shout
    Nelson Out
    He's in he's out he's in.
    Gliksten stubbornly stood by him, but after Hulyer took over he issued a public vote of confidence one saturday, took him for a meal in The Bull, Chislehust, where my mate was working as a chef, on the Sunday, then sacked him on the monday. After 2 years of this sort of stuff there was a sense of anti-climax.
     
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  16. User deleted as requested

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    Rich Cawley is Tweeting this morning that the new owners are "going for it" in the transfer market this summer <whistle>. The fragrant Katrien must have informed him <hug>

    Day on day I am feeling increasingly optimistic about the future, if we can just survive this season.
     
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  17. Addick4Life

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    I think the intent was shown in January when the club tried to sign Max Gradel for £1.5m (more the fee than the player in terms of intent)...

    Reckon this summer could be like the one prior to our League One winning season when we had a lot of players coming in (just the next step up this time)
     
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  18. Scratchingvalleycat

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    I have been silent the last couple of weeks as I have been watching developments with interest and care rather than jumping to conclusions after five matches. My view is that it is possible that Riga will prove to be a better manager than Powell. You have to factor into this also that he has the owners backing and can spend some money , albeit on loans like Obika which CP was crying out for.

    To early to judge at the present I will wait to the end of the year (2014) not the season to see how we perform in whatever league we are in at that point in time. I will be happy to see that Riga is successful in that I am a supporter of CAFC not RD, CP or JR. CP was a larger than life character who many in the club identified with after nearly a decade and a half on the scene. Riga has been here just over a month and time alone will tell. History is never correctly written in the present tense.
     
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  19. Butterfield

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    Skimmed through this thread..lots of broken records and twisted knickers.

    Vol is right, we are better under Riga.

    We would have been better under anybody. Unfortunately CP let all the clubs uncertainty get to him. At the end of it he looked like a beaten man. WE MOVE ON

    What's wrong with a gloat when you're right? My only criticism of the OP was the lack of cardigans and sweaters
     
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  20. User deleted as requested

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    Fixtures this Saturday:

    Derby v Us

    Millwall v Blackburn

    Yeovil v Barnsley
     
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