It's like watching one man and his dog at times. Some people form opinions in the same way as a sheep decides its direction. Don't think, follow the crowd.![]()
Whereas you're wrong most of the time and nobody agrees with you.
It's like watching one man and his dog at times. Some people form opinions in the same way as a sheep decides its direction. Don't think, follow the crowd.![]()
Boxpark in shoredich, works well there, also holds free events most of the year.
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Hull City Council have refused planning permission for a 'container cafe' down by the Marina, on the basis that they think it's out of keeping with the area, a Councillor on Burnsy's show just described it as 'monstrous'. Obviously, it's not supposed to be in keeping, it's supposed to be a very modern structure that contrasts with the historic surroundings, so would you have approved it or not?
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Whereas you're wrong most of the time and nobody agrees with you.
A really vibrant & fab place...
That should be our aspiration with the shipping connection
I guess it looks better in the flesh, because from those pictures it looks ****ing awful.
Do they open each morning with wire cutters and that irritating American auctioneer, surrounded by people bidding for the contents?
You've yet to show me where I'm wrong. So far, all you've done is demonstrate your ignorance and poor ability at insults or debate.
'Just threads having snide digs at a neighbouring authority on a board with "no politics".'
OLM didn't have a snide dig at the council; he asked posters if the cafe should have received planning permission.
So you were wrong.

Man-child never admits when he's wrong.
That doesn't explain your question, it simply confirms what I said, that quite often, people on here whinge about the council, when the issues are not really the council's responsibility.
Living in the past is possibly apt, given they argue the pod thing wasn't fitting in with the older buildings nearby. Odd given that odd looking gold building that looks fire damaged, and is now getting covered by another building, but there it is.
Nothing will please everyone, but at least the process is open to ideas and input from citizens. It just needs a few more to contribute positively with thoughts and ideas in the right place, rather than random, Ill informed whinges on a football forum.
What constitutes an ill informed whinge will be decided upon of course by DMD who is the only one well informed on every topic. Most people apparently disagree with the council, at least those who have offered an opinion, on various forums and polls. Not that anything like that will influence those taking these decisions.
Some of you could definitely argue in an empty room
Nothing in the article to indicate whether there were pre-submission discussions or not. Also what did the officers recommend to the planning committee. Discussions whilst helpful its the committee who decide for eg I assume the concert hall had officer involvement with a recommendation for approval but the members refused it.Has anyone posted what the council said??
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Mons...r-caf-eacute/story-28666432-detail/story.html
Councillors said they liked the concept but criticised the quality of the design and the proposed location.
But Councillor Rilba Jones, who moved refusal, described the container as "monstrous" and claimed it would ruin open views across the marina.
"It does absolutely nothing to preserve or enhance the conservation area," she said.
Councillor John Fareham welcomed the idea of a pop-up café near the waterfront but said the proposed design was poor.
"We need to pull up the quality of design in Hull and this will not achieve that," he said.
He said other units provided by the same supplier appeared to be of much higher quality and claimed the one intended for Hull was from the "bottom end of the range".
Councillor Terry Keal said locating the café on the very edge of the marina would prevent people from walking around the former Humber Dock.
He also criticised the proposed design, saying: "If it had been a hull of a ship converted into a café or had been suggested in another location, like Queens Gardens, it might have been a different matter."
Councillor Tom McVie said it would have been better if the restaurant owners had gone through an informal pre-application process with the council to iron out issues surrounding design and location before submitting the plans for a committee decision.
Fareham and Keal are not Labour either. And the last bit shows the proposers have gone about it poorly.
Has anyone posted what the council said??
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Mons...r-caf-eacute/story-28666432-detail/story.html
Councillors said they liked the concept but criticised the quality of the design and the proposed location.
But Councillor Rilba Jones, who moved refusal, described the container as "monstrous" and claimed it would ruin open views across the marina.
"It does absolutely nothing to preserve or enhance the conservation area," she said.
Councillor John Fareham welcomed the idea of a pop-up café near the waterfront but said the proposed design was poor.
"We need to pull up the quality of design in Hull and this will not achieve that," he said.
He said other units provided by the same supplier appeared to be of much higher quality and claimed the one intended for Hull was from the "bottom end of the range".
Councillor Terry Keal said locating the café on the very edge of the marina would prevent people from walking around the former Humber Dock.
He also criticised the proposed design, saying: "If it had been a hull of a ship converted into a café or had been suggested in another location, like Queens Gardens, it might have been a different matter."
Councillor Tom McVie said it would have been better if the restaurant owners had gone through an informal pre-application process with the council to iron out issues surrounding design and location before submitting the plans for a committee decision.
Fareham and Keal are not Labour either. And the last bit shows the proposers have gone about it poorly.
Some of you could definitely argue in an empty room
There are no hard and fast rules, but a rule of thumb is, if it has "Quote= Castro's Coffin" at the top, it's a reasonable indication.
Beyond that, those nasty things like facts give a bit of a clue too.
You used to offer some good debates before, but of late it's like being in a room that has a **** record stuck on repeat. What happened to make you so bitter?