Right, not wishing to carry on disrupting the other thread, I've a few questions for CTWD, and an explanation of why I support the Allams and not CTWD. Try to take a deep breath, and think before hitting that "submit" button.
I'm still puzzled by the support for a room full of people deciding the entire future direction of a group by showing their hands. Also, don't you usually need a quorum before a xGM can pass anything? If you're sticking to the rules, what quorum have you set?
Seeing as it's so easy to organise a poll, I'm also curious as to why you didn't organise one before hand, so that you could get the views of the majority of your members, then present that at the FGM. Seriously, it would have been REALLY easy for you to do this, why haven't you? Not interested in what the 1600ish that can't make it think? Are they irrelevant?
It's nice to see you doing things you're "legally obliged to do", so, who is the Independant Hand Counter?
What provisions are in place to ensure no one votes twice, i.e. puts both hands up?
What provisions are in place for people who can't raise their arms high enough?
Can parents hold their eligible kids up and does the kid need to hold up both hands to signify themselves and their parent?
Can the people who can't make it in vote via instagram with a photo of their hand up (membership bracelet displayed clearly)?
Any chance of a photo of the room full of CTWD voters with their arms raised please??
In all honesty, I now see why the club turned down your generous offer to help them run their poll. Even with all of CTWD in attendance, I think it would have been difficult to count all the hands being raised around the stadium.
You accuse the Allams of being scared for not running a poll, then you lambast them for the poll they do run, then you run this shambles because you either a) can't manage a simple poll of your membership or b) think their views are irrelevant.
You accuse them of deceit and lies, all the while keeping from your membership and the public whom you seem to enjoy "engaging" with about the super secret file you handed over to the FA, not to mention the long running bullshit about being single issue.
You claim to back the Allams whilst doing every single thing you can to undermine them and the club.
You accuse them of polarising supporters, whilst you describe anyone not in CTWD as irrelevant, and anyone who dares to stand up to you is set upon by your angry little internet stormtroopers.
You twist and turn every comment from the owners, yet scream and howl when anyone does it to you.
You accuse them of releasing contentious statements before a game, which upsets people, then you release a statement the day before a game which is designed to upset people.
You're still playing at Football Manager. You have no clue of how to run a club, no proper plan or approach on how to raise sufficient funds to make our club long term financially stable. In short, you're protesting for the sake of protesting. You like protesting. You actually have nothing to offer the club other than your so called support.
Almost everything you accuse the club of, you are guilty of, it's almost like you think its one rule for them, and a totally different set of rules for you.
The Allams have restructured the club internally, removing waste and inefficiency. The business side of things at the club are now being run much more professionally than they were before they turned up. They managed to get rid of Bullard without it costing us a fortune. They have gambled their own money on the club and want to attempt something risky, but in a managed and moderated manner in a brave attempt to break the mold and to give us an edge.
Sure, they've made some mistakes, who doesn't? The name change could have been handled better, everyone acknowledges that. It's not however quite the portent of doom CTWD paints it to be.
They're still more trustworthy and have more integrity than CTWD. That is why I support them and the club, not CTWD.
I'm still puzzled by the support for a room full of people deciding the entire future direction of a group by showing their hands. Also, don't you usually need a quorum before a xGM can pass anything? If you're sticking to the rules, what quorum have you set?
Seeing as it's so easy to organise a poll, I'm also curious as to why you didn't organise one before hand, so that you could get the views of the majority of your members, then present that at the FGM. Seriously, it would have been REALLY easy for you to do this, why haven't you? Not interested in what the 1600ish that can't make it think? Are they irrelevant?
It's nice to see you doing things you're "legally obliged to do", so, who is the Independant Hand Counter?
What provisions are in place to ensure no one votes twice, i.e. puts both hands up?
What provisions are in place for people who can't raise their arms high enough?
Can parents hold their eligible kids up and does the kid need to hold up both hands to signify themselves and their parent?
Can the people who can't make it in vote via instagram with a photo of their hand up (membership bracelet displayed clearly)?
Any chance of a photo of the room full of CTWD voters with their arms raised please??
In all honesty, I now see why the club turned down your generous offer to help them run their poll. Even with all of CTWD in attendance, I think it would have been difficult to count all the hands being raised around the stadium.
You accuse the Allams of being scared for not running a poll, then you lambast them for the poll they do run, then you run this shambles because you either a) can't manage a simple poll of your membership or b) think their views are irrelevant.
You accuse them of deceit and lies, all the while keeping from your membership and the public whom you seem to enjoy "engaging" with about the super secret file you handed over to the FA, not to mention the long running bullshit about being single issue.
You claim to back the Allams whilst doing every single thing you can to undermine them and the club.
You accuse them of polarising supporters, whilst you describe anyone not in CTWD as irrelevant, and anyone who dares to stand up to you is set upon by your angry little internet stormtroopers.
You twist and turn every comment from the owners, yet scream and howl when anyone does it to you.
You accuse them of releasing contentious statements before a game, which upsets people, then you release a statement the day before a game which is designed to upset people.
You're still playing at Football Manager. You have no clue of how to run a club, no proper plan or approach on how to raise sufficient funds to make our club long term financially stable. In short, you're protesting for the sake of protesting. You like protesting. You actually have nothing to offer the club other than your so called support.
Almost everything you accuse the club of, you are guilty of, it's almost like you think its one rule for them, and a totally different set of rules for you.
The Allams have restructured the club internally, removing waste and inefficiency. The business side of things at the club are now being run much more professionally than they were before they turned up. They managed to get rid of Bullard without it costing us a fortune. They have gambled their own money on the club and want to attempt something risky, but in a managed and moderated manner in a brave attempt to break the mold and to give us an edge.
Sure, they've made some mistakes, who doesn't? The name change could have been handled better, everyone acknowledges that. It's not however quite the portent of doom CTWD paints it to be.
They're still more trustworthy and have more integrity than CTWD. That is why I support them and the club, not CTWD.
You must be really pissed off with them, as your ongoing boycott shows no sign of abating.