Right, not wishing to carry on disrupting the other thread, I've a few questions for CTWD, and an explanation of why I support the Allams and not CTWD. Try to take a deep breath, and think before hitting that "submit" button. I'm still puzzled by the support for a room full of people deciding the entire future direction of a group by showing their hands. Also, don't you usually need a quorum before a xGM can pass anything? If you're sticking to the rules, what quorum have you set? Seeing as it's so easy to organise a poll, I'm also curious as to why you didn't organise one before hand, so that you could get the views of the majority of your members, then present that at the FGM. Seriously, it would have been REALLY easy for you to do this, why haven't you? Not interested in what the 1600ish that can't make it think? Are they irrelevant? It's nice to see you doing things you're "legally obliged to do", so, who is the Independant Hand Counter? What provisions are in place to ensure no one votes twice, i.e. puts both hands up? What provisions are in place for people who can't raise their arms high enough? Can parents hold their eligible kids up and does the kid need to hold up both hands to signify themselves and their parent? Can the people who can't make it in vote via instagram with a photo of their hand up (membership bracelet displayed clearly)? Any chance of a photo of the room full of CTWD voters with their arms raised please?? In all honesty, I now see why the club turned down your generous offer to help them run their poll. Even with all of CTWD in attendance, I think it would have been difficult to count all the hands being raised around the stadium. You accuse the Allams of being scared for not running a poll, then you lambast them for the poll they do run, then you run this shambles because you either a) can't manage a simple poll of your membership or b) think their views are irrelevant. You accuse them of deceit and lies, all the while keeping from your membership and the public whom you seem to enjoy "engaging" with about the super secret file you handed over to the FA, not to mention the long running bullshit about being single issue. You claim to back the Allams whilst doing every single thing you can to undermine them and the club. You accuse them of polarising supporters, whilst you describe anyone not in CTWD as irrelevant, and anyone who dares to stand up to you is set upon by your angry little internet stormtroopers. You twist and turn every comment from the owners, yet scream and howl when anyone does it to you. You accuse them of releasing contentious statements before a game, which upsets people, then you release a statement the day before a game which is designed to upset people. You're still playing at Football Manager. You have no clue of how to run a club, no proper plan or approach on how to raise sufficient funds to make our club long term financially stable. In short, you're protesting for the sake of protesting. You like protesting. You actually have nothing to offer the club other than your so called support. Almost everything you accuse the club of, you are guilty of, it's almost like you think its one rule for them, and a totally different set of rules for you. The Allams have restructured the club internally, removing waste and inefficiency. The business side of things at the club are now being run much more professionally than they were before they turned up. They managed to get rid of Bullard without it costing us a fortune. They have gambled their own money on the club and want to attempt something risky, but in a managed and moderated manner in a brave attempt to break the mold and to give us an edge. Sure, they've made some mistakes, who doesn't? The name change could have been handled better, everyone acknowledges that. It's not however quite the portent of doom CTWD paints it to be. They're still more trustworthy and have more integrity than CTWD. That is why I support them and the club, not CTWD.
for me, I will always support the Allams cos they have put their money where there mouth is. Actions speak louder than words.
Damn, I read the subject header and expected this to be the "type with your nose" contest. I'm ace at that.
No they havent. Theyve loaned money where their mouth is. And I really dont understand this point. So basically someone can do anything they want as long as they put their substantial money into something? Im pretty sure some of the world's most unscrupulous characters are some of the wealthiest who put their money into entirely reprehensible ventures.
How the hell do you manage the shift key? I'd better not try with the runny nose I've got at the moment.
Basically yeah, if you don't like it, tough, you don't spend money on the club to show your disapproval. It makes me piss the way you PAY AA to go and watch the game, you PAY AA to wear your replica tops that you buy from HIS shop. whatever next? PAY AA to go to the match and sing "City Till I Die"?..... oh wait a minute.
And yet the irony is that you love Dr Hallam with all your heart, but pay nothing to him whatsoever as you never go. You couldn't make...ah **** it.
I think we need Kozzer on from the start......best passer after Hudds? Possession is key against Swansea.
I have attended 4 matches this season. But seeing as no one has died and made you god. I dont have to explain **** to you.
Happy Tiger. A coherent argument and one which I completely endorse. Every one is entitled to their opinion but the CTID group do not represent all Hull City supporters and seem to imply that any opposite views are only held by what they term as 'plastic' supporters. I've supported Hull city since 1964 and was one of the few fans who protested in Huddersfield last year about an issue far more important than a name change! As an aside my observations at the recent away fixture at Stoke was that many of the CTID supporters, ie those chanting at 19.04 minutes and holding up the banner, were more concerned with shouting foul mouthed abuse and gesticulating at the opposing fans, than watching the game and supporting the team! Hopefully, as Steve Bruce has requested, ALL fans can focus on supporting the FOOTBALL TEAM on Saturday and we beat Swansea.
I'd agree that possession is key for this one and on paper Koren gives you that, he just seems to look poor when he starts, he looks much better from the bench.
I love the way that you dont have an answer to the point and so you turn it into a personal attack on me.
