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question for athiests

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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  2. jonathan acworth

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    do u take steroids
     
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  3. jonathan acworth

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    silly me i thourght that said athleets-sorry long day
     
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  4. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Next hes gonna tell us NOT606 was foretold in the Quran.
     
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  5. Erik

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    <nahnah>
     
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  6. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    Precisely. <ok>

    "And ye EDGE did come forth and spew his bile about blacks on the internets".
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.
    The point doesn't stand upon anyone's judgement, it's just a clear case of injustice.
    Giving some people a free pass to heaven and then sending others to hell for not having the same information to work from isn't just, however you look at it.

    Because the point would still be the same.
    It's not about who's been chosen or not, it's that some people have and others haven't.

    If the courts were to get two people that had committed the same offence together and jail one, but let the other go free, then that would be a clear injustice, wouldn't it?
    Why would this be any different?

    No.
    The point that god, who is supposedly perfect and omnipotent, could have a last resort is missing several.

    And they had no concept of right and wrong, as they hadn't eaten the fruit yet.
    He also lied to them about what would happen if they did.

    He also knows which decisions we'll make, so what's the point?

    If he dictates who we are, our surroundings and can influence anything and everything in the world, then he clearly does dictate our actions.

    The universe had a start for this current form.
    It's unknown whether it existed in a different form before that.

    If you're suggesting that scientists don't have substantial evidence to prove that the gist of the big bang theory is correct, then you're wrong.
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Claiming that we can't understand it isn't an answer, it's avoiding the question.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The other thing about us not being able to understand god is that you're saying that god created us and chose not to give us the ability to understand him.
     
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  10. Mind The Duck

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    He gave lucifer a greater understanding and look what happened
     
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  11. Erik

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    <laugh> I hope that's a joke
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You'd have to prove that Lucifer exists for this to be true, but even if it was, are you suggesting that he made a mistake?
    Surely a perfect being wouldn't make a mistake, especially as he'd know that he was going to do it?
     
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  13. Sam Axe

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    Lucifer/Satan/The Devil doesn't exist and Hell doesn't exist. That is another issue I have with religion. They preach that God is all forgiving so if that were the case there would be no need for Hell as it is seen as a punishment.
     
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  14. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    I like you Jack, good bloke
     
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  15. Sam Axe

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    Cheers <ok> Your'e not so bad yourself
     
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  16. Nazara

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    I agree Jack
    I'm not religious
    However sometimes you do hope that such a afterlife exists so bastards like Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting truly face real Justice instead of spending the rest of their lives in a comfy jail while the victims families will never see their loved ones agian.
     
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  17. Sam Axe

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    Don't worry, when I come to power the prisons will become much harsher. EU Human Rights Commission be damned
     
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    Huntley's life in prison is hardly comfy. <laugh>
     
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  19. Nazara

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    What he suffers in prison will never ever compare to what he did those girls and the pain he caused their families.
     
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  20. Sanj

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    Very true. But you can't describe trying to be killed in prison as having a comfy time. That **** has to watch over his shoulder for the rest of his life.
     
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