Match Day Thread QPR v Hull

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Good post SB but I am not sure it is fair on Ollie
Different people have different ways of dealing with bereavement and if he thought it would take his mind off it and asked to play then he might have thought he was helping. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I know but what if he had played a blinder?
Agreed, but I'm not sure Ollie is qualified to make the call. Though I am pretty sure he thinks he is.
 
Good post SB but I am not sure it is fair on Ollie
Different people have different ways of dealing with bereavement and if he thought it would take his mind off it and asked to play then he might have thought he was helping. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I know but what if he had played a blinder?

Grief is so personal and people tackle it in very different ways.

I agree that it is strange that he wished/wanted to/was willing to play on Saturday. But I am sure that decision came out of a personal 1:1 discussion. I don't want to judge such personal tragedies and methods of managing emotions.
 
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I watched the QPR+ stream. I agree the review is restrictive as regards to the global perspective compared to watching live matches.

My comments are consistent with the views of the commentators at the match, who I agree could have been also in error.

I draw your attention that Bidwell did tend to stay back and this may be the root cause of the misunderstanding.

Andy Sinton is the side Commentator - I think he knows what he's talking about! They were joking about how there was no doubt Perch and Bidwell were playing proper backs today late on in the first half I think it was. Both, especially Perch, got forward to good effect. Ned and Baptiste were the only 2 CB''s until Perch replaced the latter there late on.

Apologies mate. It was definitely a flat back 4. When the subs came on it showed we were really going for the win which was positive.

I don't think we played 3 at the back at any stage Ski. It was 4 at the back, then 2 at the back when we were chasing the game, then 9 at the back for the last few minutes.

But it doesn't really matter, as long as they were doing whatever it was that Holloway had told them to do. I don't think the commentators on a club broadcast are any better informed than we are, and are probably a lot less knowledgeable than some on here, such as Bob.

Just to add my three pen'orth.........

I thought we started with 3 CBs, but switched to a flat back four quite quickly - we certainly finished the first half with a back four. It then seemed to be a three again towards the end, with Perch playing in the centre between Bidwell and Onuoha.

Anyway, we won, so who cares, eh?
 
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Just to add my three pen'orth.........

I thought we started with 3 CBs, but switched to a flat back four quite quickly - we certainly finished the first half with a back four. It then seemed to be a three again towards the end, with Perch playing in the centre between Bidwell and Onuoha.

Anyway, we won, so who cares, eh?

Indeed. And I personally felt entertained regardless of result in a way I rarely was last season.

I fear for us at Cardiff though playing in such a cavalier fashion. I really think we need a designated left-midfielder given how they're going with my old mate Hoilett, Zohore etc.
 
I know I'm in a minority on this but I think it's bollocks that it's now a given that a player misses a game because his wife is having a kid.

Presumably the same bollocks that got the player into that mess in the first place. :)
 
Indeed. And I personally felt entertained regardless of result in a way I rarely was last season.

I fear for us at Cardiff though playing in such a cavalier fashion. I really think we need a designated left-midfielder given how they're going with my old mate Hoilett, Zohore etc.


Hoilett's **** though isn't he? We can leave him unmarked surely?
 
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Just to add my three pen'orth.........

I thought we started with 3 CBs, but switched to a flat back four quite quickly - we certainly finished the first half with a back four. It then seemed to be a three again towards the end, with Perch playing in the centre between Bidwell and Onuoha.

Anyway, we won, so who cares, eh?

I give up up and it is not important.

Let's conclude that we are extremely flexible (even "chameleonic") with our formations which may surprise the opposition, providing we do not confuse ourselves :)
 
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Sylla leaves it late to slay Tigers - Report

Monday, 21st Aug 2017 by Clive Whittingham

QPR came from one down to win two win in injury time against Hull City at Loftus Road on Saturday thanks to goals from substitutes Matt Smith and Idrissa Sylla.

Why do you keep doing it? Why do you keep going every week? How can you stand it? Don’t you realise how much it’s costing? Aren’t they a bit **** these days? Haven’t all your friends got married and had kids now? Why are you still there?

Injury time goals mate.

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/46336
 
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Sylla leaves it late to slay Tigers - Report

Monday, 21st Aug 2017 by Clive Whittingham

QPR came from one down to win two win in injury time against Hull City at Loftus Road on Saturday thanks to goals from substitutes Matt Smith and Idrissa Sylla.

Why do you keep doing it? Why do you keep going every week? How can you stand it? Don’t you realise how much it’s costing? Aren’t they a bit **** these days? Haven’t all your friends got married and had kids now? Why are you still there?

Injury time goals mate.

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/46336

They're always good reports (where is Swords?) but enjoyed this one especially.
 
It's one of the few things that I'd say you have to go through personally before you can have a balanced view. Though I have to say that, after being there for the birth of both my kids, I didn't get a warm 'what a miracle' glow and shed a lake full of tears, more of a relief that it was over for my wife as it looks rather painful, then a dawning and not entirely pleasant sensation of the level of responsibility I had for the rest of my life, especially with the first one.

I fail to see that being a footballer would make any difference, and a manager would be mad to say 'you have to play' to a player who asks to miss a game for this reason. Similarly with an actor in a play, which I think is a comparable profession. If your mind is elsewhere you won't be able to do these spectacularly unimportant jobs properly. Even more so if you are doing something with more consequences, like driving an ambulance or directing traffic.

Tricky decision for a player who will miss the Champions League or World Cup final for this reason though.
didnt trevor francis get into trouble for saying exactly that to a player
one of the allens i think
 
Sylla, Perch and late Hull insanity - Knee Jerks

Monday, 21st Aug 2017 20:45 by Antti Heinola

Antti Heinola is back to reflect on three more points, and Holloway showing he can follow a single defeat with a win for the first time.

Insanity

I've rarely been to a game that was so mundane and nondescript and devoid of real excitement for the first 70 minutes, only for heart-palpitating insanity, drama and chaos to unfold for the last 20.

This was a nothing game. A typical Championship game - competent but not brilliant, diverting to fans of either side, but like watching emulsion get less wet for anyone else. QPR were the better side for half an hour, and should have scored twice (Freeman for, I think, the fourth game in a row managing to miss a presentable chance after a nice pull back from the right) but Hull had the lead after some dreadful defending. After that, they looked the better side, mainly because they pressed us high to stop our new plan of playing out from the back so we're not lumping high balls to Sneezy and Grumpy up front.

continued here ... https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/46347/
 
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