Protests then?...what do you want?

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I just fail to see what good protesting inside the ground at the start of the Premier League season is going to do.

For me there are two questions. The first: are we going to be sold? I have no idea. The only person who can really answer that is Assem Allam. He'll tell us in his own good time. If he wants to sell he'll get the price and the terms he wants. If the Americans have walked away then he'll still own Hull City in November, December or whenever. I can do nothing about that. Even if I bought a replica shirt it wouldn't increase the purchase price.

The second is do I think the membership scheme is fair? No so the protests continue. If the Premier League insist that away fans get concessions then even more reason to protest. What good will it do? It will let the club know we haven't forgotten, we are still unhappy and they may like to consider doing something about it. They are sitting on £96 million from the TV money, a few hundred thousand to re-introduce concessions isn't going to break the bank.
 
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I've got no hidden agenda. I, like most people on here, are just a supporter of Hull City and I have been for a very long time.
I cannot say I have seen it all but I've seen most of it.
Believe me if you think you have a cause for complain now you should have been supporting us when we were deep in the mire with nothing on the pitch, no-one in the stands and even less in the Bank.
There are two sides to every argument and once again believe me all the 'unjust' things some of you think are wrong today have all happened before in one way or another and all have been over come.
I do honestly believe the Allams are genuinely trying to sell the club but it is not as straight forward as some people niavely think it should be.
We are talking more money then it took to over throw Northern Rock and look at the financial back lash that brought.
We're not talking about buying and selling a second hand car.
Besides I thought this was a forum to discuss ones views ?
Not simply follow on grumbling with everyone else about how poor we are compared to so and so like a load of sheep.

For someone who has seen most things you should realise that these should be the best times and yet because of the owners for many they are the worst.
 
For me there are two questions. The first: are we going to be sold? I have no idea. The only person who can really answer that is Assem Allam. He'll tell us in his own good time. If he wants to sell he'll get the price and the terms he wants. If the Americans have walked away then he'll still own Hull City in November, December or whenever. I can do nothing about that. Even if I bought a replica shirt it wouldn't increase the purchase price.

The second is do I think the membership scheme is fair? No so the protests continue. If the Premier League insist that away fans get concessions then even more reason to protest. What good will it do? It will let the club know we haven't forgotten, we are still unhappy and they may like to consider doing something about it. They are sitting on £96 million from the TV money, a few hundred thousand to re-introduce concessions isn't going to break the bank.

But those running the club are convinced they are right and they are not going to budge because a few thousand red cards are held up at a game.
And as hard as it to take they are in the driving seat.
 
For someone who has seen most things you should realise that these should be the best times and yet because of the owners for many they are the worst.
You've been out of the country too long to come up with a statement like that.
How can they be the worst ?
I know these should be the best times but I also don't think they are the worst times either. Not by a country mile they are not........and we could see a solution to it all in a few weeks time.
 
It's easy to say 'just don't go' or that a mass boycott is the only way to be rid of the Allams, but it is wrong. 'I wont spend another penny at the club until they are gone' - That attitude and action may make you feel better but Allam doesn't give a ****. What make me feel better is going to the football and shouting Allam 'go **** yourself' and taking part in any in-ground protests. Again Allam probably doesn't care, but at least I can show support for the team.

Firstly, there are City supporters who have been going week in, week out, since they can remember. That may be a relatively short time (over 22 odd years for me) or 80 plus years. These people see City as theirs and go whoever owns them and whatever their feelings are towards the owners. Going to watch City is in their DNA and the Allams behaviour will not stop them going, especially since the name change bid was rejected. Therefore a boycott will never work because at the very least there will always be a few thousand going, who honestly believe they are doing right by their club, and so it will just make us look small time to the world.

Secondly, the Allams don't care about how many people go to watch us. They have proven this time and again.

Thirdly, it won't even hit their bank balance that much.

Fourthly, it will make us look like an unattractive prospect for future buyers.

Fifthly, it would make much more sense for a packed stadium to protest the Allam regime. All 4 stands doing a red card protest, standing with their backs to the pitch, whatever it is, would make football headlines that people would notice. We would look like well supported club that is not happy with the current owner, not a tinpot club that only attracts a few thousand people - which would make no headlines and have no impact.
I personally will not set foot inside the ground Walter, but understand and respect fully your opinion which echoes many others. But id ask you all to do this. Wear red!!!... T-shirts anything because for me as sure as hell red cards will be confiscated. Doesn't have to be expensive, cheap and cheerful bright red. They could be printed with something simple lie GO NOW!!!.. or OUR CLUB IS NOT A TOY!!!... or THIS WILL NEVR BE YOUR CLUB ALLAM!!! Im sure some T shirt company in Hull should be being pro active at offering these. FFS, The HDM should be promoting the sale of them!!!
 
You've been out of the country too long to come up with a statement like that.
How can they be the worst ?
I know these should be the best times but I also don't think they are the worst times either. Not by a country mile they are not........and we could see a solution to it all in a few weeks time.

As I said these should be the best of times. Years ago at our clubs level there was no money, for the fans, the players or the owners and yet at most clubs even ours sometimes there was a sense of togetherness. There may only have been a few thousand there, but we were all on the same side.

Many have said that if only the Allams hadn't fallen out with the council and then subsequently the fans we should be building a statue of them. Every single thing now results in a widening of the gap between club and fans. Can you tell me one thing they have done that builds a bridge to the fans?
 
But those running the club are convinced they are right and they are not going to budge because a few thousand red cards are held up at a game.
And as hard as it to take they are in the driving seat.

It'll remind the Premier League to tell Hull City Tigers Limited they must follow the rules.
 
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A significant fine by the FA for ignoring the rules laid down in the Premiership guidelines would highlight out case even more.
 
A significant fine by the FA for ignoring the rules laid down in the Premiership guidelines would highlight out case even more.
That really would highlight something, no doubt there.

On account of it being **** all to do with the FA, who btw, aren't the PL.

Also, guidelines are not rules, they're guidelines.
 
I personally will not set foot inside the ground Walter, but understand and respect fully your opinion which echoes many others. But id ask you all to do this. Wear red!!!... T-shirts anything because for me as sure as hell red cards will be confiscated. Doesn't have to be expensive, cheap and cheerful bright red. They could be printed with something simple lie GO NOW!!!.. or OUR CLUB IS NOT A TOY!!!... or THIS WILL NEVR BE YOUR CLUB ALLAM!!! Im sure some T shirt company in Hull should be being pro active at offering these. FFS, The HDM should be promoting the sale of them!!!

Red cards can be folded & put into a jacket pocket can't they? Or are we talking heavy duty cardboard?
 
That really would highlight something, no doubt there.

On account of it being **** all to do with the FA, who btw, aren't the PL.

Also, guidelines are not rules, they're guidelines.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the concessions detailed by the FA or Premier League are not guidelines...?!!...open to correction .. which was the gist of my point.
 
and the have offered concessions .. in certain areas ala arsenal ... so no breach of rules ... ffs stop thinking that the league will come down on them at all ... rules are adhered to , supporters mean nothing ... usual to see ya de ya
 
and the have offered concessions .. in certain areas ala arsenal ... so no breach of rules ... ffs stop thinking that the league will come down on them at all ... rules are adhered to , supporters mean nothing ... usual to see ya de ya

They haven't, there are currently no concessions, that's why they're still trying to negotiate an arrangement the Premier League are happy with.