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Protests then?...what do you want?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dennisboothstash, Jul 16, 2016.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't advise taking out the seats. Only Millwall can do that without police involvement.
     
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  2. TwoWrights

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    The red cards worked last time as they were very visible, and impossible to ignore on the television highlights.
    In my opinion they should continue for the Leicester match, with the addition of the word 'TOXIC' on them. (I'm willing to put £25 toward the cost of them) The 'silent majority' should be issued with a white card, that way the Addams Family will know the level of their support.




    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  3. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Or just wait until September when they said they would be selling the club ?
     
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  4. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Explain just how the red card protest worked ?
    What exactly did it achieve ?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It got the message out via all major news outlets and highlighted the issue that City fans were facing.
     
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  6. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    They said 24 hours, two years ago.
     
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  7. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    It united all four stands in one protest. I believe supporters should be respected and consulted about changes to the club such as evictions and the introduction of the new membership scheme. All of us coming together to disapprove of what's happened/happening is a good thing. Just my opinion.
     
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  8. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    I know all that but what exactly did it achieve ? Was the membership scheme scrapped or did the club take a blind bit of notice ?
    As much as I am opposed to the membership scheme there are winners and losers, and I'm still not convinced, but it's looking like we will be kicking the season off with it in place.
    Personally I do not see what will be achieved by staging protests at the start of the new season when we are getting told the club will be sold in September.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Because we're not being sold in September, it's made up bollocks and we want them gone.
     
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  10. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I was just going to say - nobody, not even the Allams, have said we're being sold in September. Isnt it interesting how people read what they want to read?
     
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  11. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    According to who ? Someone in the pub ? The taxi driver ? The bloke in the chip shop ?
    You say 'we' want them gone ? But there is no-one ready to take their place yet.
    Taking all the squabbling and rumours out of equasion and all we have in the club statement saying that take over talks are suspended until September. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that because we don't appear to have another option on the table.
    I just fail to see what good protesting inside the ground at the start of the Premier League season is going to do.
    Besides haven't those who have not bought a season ticket already made the only protest the club are likely to take any notice of ?
     
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  12. FER ARK

    FER ARK Well-Known Member

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    Not a fan of non attendance personally, not that I'm a pl plastic, (as some will suggest) don't really matter which league we play in. I've been fortunate / unfortunate * (delete as to point of view) enough to watch city in all four divisions all over the country, even Europe! Way I see it is ,yes, empty seats look s**t, but the revenue those two c***s lose is a drop in the ocean. Think they'll rather take a small hit than have seats full of angry supporters venting at them for 90 mins. Assuming they'll attend this season?

    Allams OUT
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Of course there is, at least there was, until someone got greedy last Thursday.
     
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  14. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Tubbylard seems intent to take my mantle as the most argumentative on here.

    I won't let it go without a fight, or at least a strongly worded argument.
     
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  15. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    It's easy to say 'just don't go' or that a mass boycott is the only way to be rid of the Allams, but it is wrong. 'I wont spend another penny at the club until they are gone' - That attitude and action may make you feel better but Allam doesn't give a ****. What make me feel better is going to the football and shouting Allam 'go **** yourself' and taking part in any in-ground protests. Again Allam probably doesn't care, but at least I can show support for the team.

    Firstly, there are City supporters who have been going week in, week out, since they can remember. That may be a relatively short time (over 22 odd years for me) or 80 plus years. These people see City as theirs and go whoever owns them and whatever their feelings are towards the owners. Going to watch City is in their DNA and the Allams behaviour will not stop them going, especially since the name change bid was rejected. Therefore a boycott will never work because at the very least there will always be a few thousand going, who honestly believe they are doing right by their club, and so it will just make us look small time to the world.

    Secondly, the Allams don't care about how many people go to watch us. They have proven this time and again.

    Thirdly, it won't even hit their bank balance that much.

    Fourthly, it will make us look like an unattractive prospect for future buyers.

    Fifthly, it would make much more sense for a packed stadium to protest the Allam regime. All 4 stands doing a red card protest, standing with their backs to the pitch, whatever it is, would make football headlines that people would notice. We would look like well supported club that is not happy with the current owner, not a tinpot club that only attracts a few thousand people - which would make no headlines and have no impact.
     
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  16. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    i don't think a boycott is "wrong" because I think it's a matter of purely personal choice. But I agree with the rest of that from WS.
     
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  17. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Yes I agree, I've worded it badly there.

    What I mean is that there seems to be a general feeling that the ONLY way you can make a difference or show protest is a boycott, and if not you are some sort of scab, this is the notion that I think is wrong.
     
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  18. spesupersydera

    spesupersydera Well-Known Member

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    ^This is an important fact Walt - I personally don't do home games, I've thought it out, it's my choice, I won't be swayed on it even by old school types whose reasoning I respect; this doesn't make me any better or worse than any other fan who, after analysing the facts chooses to go to games, just different.
     
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  19. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    I've got no hidden agenda. I, like most people on here, are just a supporter of Hull City and I have been for a very long time.
    I cannot say I have seen it all but I've seen most of it.
    Believe me if you think you have a cause for complain now you should have been supporting us when we were deep in the mire with nothing on the pitch, no-one in the stands and even less in the Bank.
    There are two sides to every argument and once again believe me all the 'unjust' things some of you think are wrong today have all happened before in one way or another and all have been over come.
    I do honestly believe the Allams are genuinely trying to sell the club but it is not as straight forward as some people niavely think it should be.
    We are talking more money then it took to over throw Northern Rock and look at the financial back lash that brought.
    We're not talking about buying and selling a second hand car.
    Besides I thought this was a forum to discuss ones views ?
    Not simply follow on grumbling with everyone else about how poor we are compared to so and so like a load of sheep.
     
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  20. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    I think a boycott would be the right thing...BUT...only if it was followed by getting on for 100% people. That would be fantastic, but won't happen so for me there needs to be an effective in ground campaign
     
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