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I pass on the good and bad. The way it has to be.

I understand that but you seem to be letting your opinions on matter come to the fore. If it's a case of "this is what I've heard there you go" kind of thing I can understand but you are letting how you interpret it infringe slightly
 
I understand that but you seem to be letting your opinions on matter come to the fore. If it's a case of "this is what I've heard there you go" kind of thing I can understand but you are letting how you interpret it infringe slightly

No. I trust what I was told implicitly. And I have to say everything has played out exactly like I said it would. So I am assured it is reality.

I mean on this specially too, just in case you were making reference to anything else mate.

Anyway, the fella is gone. But I stand by what I said last week before this all come out.
 
and what is it you think the club has done well, cos at the moment on all your post it looks like you hate everything

I think we've got a good pathway to the first team for young players and we're identifying those players earlier.
 
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i'm not picking a side mate i'm not even picking speakmans side i'm picking my club mate, the club who id walk through glass to put the top on for,
the one ive followed my whole life, to me that badge means everything when it comes to football, some fans spend all they have following sunderland, but he can't be arsed to put a top on for 90 minutes
, he's not daft man he knows he would of got his move after that game , he didn't sign a 2 and a half year contract he signed a 3 year one

why didn't he pull the same thing in the summer ? it's cos no one come in who he wanted to go to,
he done it to force a move now
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no not at all i'll never ever ever ever stick up for a player who refused to play over a length of contract

to me the only time a player should refuse to play

is racism
contract not paid
and in some circumstances if they are really suffering with mental health

other then that any player refusing to put the top on can **** off that same manager was bumping his gums last season how great the teams was

and was also the same manger who was begging to stay after the playoffs, all gaffers are the same start complaining about everything when the go on a **** run,

could things be better with certain things
aye but it's like come people are just constantly all the time looking for stuff to complain about

win tomorrow and we are back in to top 6 after 2/3 of the season gone, you might not agree with how things are done, but at the end of the day it's working
Wasting your time marra with people with agendas
 
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A source who isnt speakmans biggest fan n is a fan of pritchard

We will never know what truely happened but the way i look at it is 1 player has refused to play for us. A player that has hostory of it so ill take the clubs side as we will never know what actually happened

If it starting happening to loads of players n loads starting refusing to play then i would be concerned n wanting to know more

This is all a bit puzzling and, as you say, the facts may never be known.

No offence to anyone but it's well known, by some on here, that Mowbray is a bit of a gossip and likes a moan.

He was like it, for all to see, in his press conferences, when he was obviously digging out people at the club.

He may as well have said, 'Why do I keep having foreigners forced on me who can't speak the language?'

It's no surprise he wanted Dack and that he wanted Pritchard at Birmingham.

Looking back at Mowbray''s other rhetoric and it seems he was sometimes suggesting he'd succeeded despite having to play foreigners, and young lads, rather than because of them. Did he throw them under a bus with the way he 'managed' the Boro match when Neil was sent off?

I pass on the good and bad. The way it has to be.

I've struggled to follow what you've said about the way Speakman handled this situation. As it's quite a big issue, and you've said the club were complicit in some seriously bad behaviour, could you spell out what actually happened? I can't understand how a club, where players who could easily move elsewhere, probably for more money, keep choosing to stay at Sunderland ... yet Pritchard was double-crossed and pushed into a situation where he was mentally unbalanced and unable to play for the team. I can't believe the move to Birmingham, which is a long contract and a big commitment, was sorted out so rapidly when 'Speakman pulled the Sunderland offer'.

This is an aging player who struggles to last a game, often performs poorly if started and has a history of calf and ankle injuries. I really don't think he'd be given two and a half years anywhere but Birmingham where Mowbray has clearly pushed for him. If I was making a guess I'd say Mowbray had a hand in Pritchard engineering the move.

If that's wrong and the club pushed Pritchard into such a mental state, that he was unable to play, and withdrew an agreed contract that's disgraceful. I can't comprehend why they would do that, toss him an inferior contract then expect him to be an asset and play to his maximum. It just doesn't make sense to me, I'm hoping you can clarify things, put me straight and put this to bed.

Which is where I'm going <laugh>
 
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This is all a bit puzzling and, as you say, the facts may never be known.

No offence to anyone but it's well known, by some on here, that Mowbray is a bit of a gossip and likes a moan.

He was like it, for all to see, in his press conferences, when he was obviously digging out people at the club.

He may as well have said, 'Why do I keep having foreigners forced on me who can't speak the language?'

It's no surprise he wanted Dack and that he wanted Pritchard at Birmingham.

Looking back at Mowbray''s other rhetoric and it seems he was sometimes suggesting he'd succeeded despite having to play foreigners, and young lads, rather than because of them. Did he throw them under a bus with the way he 'managed' the Boro match when Neil was sent off?



I've struggled to follow what you've said about the way Speakman handled this situation. As it's quite a big issue, and you've said the club were complicit in some seriously bad behaviour, could you spell out what actually happened? I can't understand how a club, where players who could easily move elsewhere, probably for more money, keep choosing to stay at Sunderland ... yet Pritchard was double-crossed and pushed into a situation where he was mentally unbalanced and unable to play for the team. I can't believe the move to Birmingham, which is a long contract and a big commitment, was sorted out so rapidly when 'Speakman pulled the Sunderland offer'.

This is an aging player who struggles to last a game, often performs poorly if started and has a history of calf and ankle injuries. I really don't think he'd be given two and a half years anywhere but Birmingham where Mowbray has clearly pushed for him. If I was making a guess I'd say Mowbray had a hand in Pritchard engineering the move.

If that's wrong and the club pushed Pritchard into such a mental state, that he was unable to play, and withdrew an agreed contract that's disgraceful. I can't comprehend why they would do that, toss him an inferior contract then expect him to be an asset and play to his maximum. It just doesn't make sense to me, I'm hoping you can clarify things, put me straight and put this to bed.

Which is where I'm going <laugh>

bang on about that
 
Would it not be reasonable, considering his fitness that the club offered an extended contract at lower pay. Maybe Pritchard refused this, maybe he said he knew he could get a better offer elsewhere, so the offer was withdrawn. The club could then prepare to acquire a replacement.
 
I can't believe this is still ongoing.

He's left and we've moved on.
 
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I can't believe this is still ongoing.

He's left and we've moved on.

I'd agree with you, about this and the BCB which are still being used to attack the club.

It's still being posted that the club have behaved so badly the PFA might've become involved. All I'm asking is that someone, who knows what happened, clarifies it.

I'm not after a prolonged argument, just clarification.
 
I'd agree with you, this and the BCB which is still being used to attack the club.

It's still being posted that the club have behaved so badly the PFA might've become involved. All I'm asking is that someone, who knows what happened, clarifies it.

I'm not after a prolonged argument, just clarification.

It's been clarified many times from a couple on here. I won't be posting about it again.
 
It really hasn't, I doubt anyone has a clue what all these rumours add up to.

No worries. Think I have been rather clear in this thread and others on the situation. But yeah, all allegedly anyway. So, on with the match today and this is old news.
 
I disagree entirely. However, it's old news so not worth the energy to cover old ground.

It's current news, you've made some serious accusations and accused Speakman of lying, which you can't prove. I suspect you want the thread locked because you can't answer the very reasonable questions I've asked about the timeline which simply doesn't stack up.
 
It's current news, you've made some serious accusations and accused Speakman of lying, which you can't prove. I suspect you want the thread locked because you can't answer the very reasonable questions I've asked about the timeline which doesn't stack up.

No. I have said what I was told. I trust the person who told me, but yeah it's allegedly to avoid any doubt.

I just can not be arsed to go over it again. It's all across threads. If you want to be detective smug do and look.
 
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