For those who are interested,let me give you a run down on a typical day in African compounds of my acquaintance,i.e.,having lived in extensively,and visited daily. Females rise early,and start their chores,viz,brooming the compound,cleaning communal areas,etc. Females will prepare breakfast,after having collected water from the nearest well,or outside tap. Females will ensure that water for washing is provided to the males,who are still in their beds. Female will go to the market and purchase meat,fish,vegatebles for lunch. Females will prepare lunch,and cook it. Females are doing washing of clothes. Females will iron clothes from previous days wash. Whilst all the above are being carried out,the males who are awake,will have a bath,using water brought by females. The males will then sit around in their clean,freshly ironed clothes,have male friends visit,drink tea,and listen to music,and smoke a spliff or two. Females then serve lunch and males eat. If a male wants drinking water,he tells a female to fetch it for him,even if he is sitting next to a tap. Females clear away the mess left by males whilst eating. Females then clean all pots,pans,cooking utensils,etc. Females are then able to take a bath and change into walking out clothes. In the afternoon,males sit around exhausted after the effort of having to actually chew their own food. As the afternoon wears on the males will go out,play football in the street,or go to the beach for a full scale game,if the tide is out. Some males will have been on the beach exercising for a large part of the day. In the evening the males will wander around,visit friends,chase girls,lay as many as possible,and generally have a good time. I could go on,but anyone who has taken the time to read the above will doubtless have formed an opinion of the roles of black males and black females. To summarise,women do all the work and males just play. It's cultural behaviour,and clearly indicates that men are treated in a very different way to women,and as a consequence, they are brought up to regard women as their slaves. Now clearly,not every compound functions completely as above,but in general terms,what I have written is based on my considerable experience. In a well to do compound,maids will be employed to carry out some of the female chores. There's a lot more I could say,but,hey,that would take me too long. So,as to my original statement being nonsense,I refute that, and attest to the above as vindication of same. I don't know "millions" of black males,but I know enough.
So morale of the debate is that religion is in fact a major catalys for violence and other forms of henous crimes?
you clearly don't know enough. How can you attribute what you've explained to all black males! It's incredibly small-minded. I AM A BLACK MALE I HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THINK I AM SUPERIOR TO FEMALES. NEITHER HAVE ALL THE BLACK FRIENDS I GREW UP WITH Regardless of what you've seen it doesn't apply to me or all black males. Not all black males live on compounds you've been to. So your original statement is absoloutley complete nonsens because you didn't state that what you saw applies to SOME black males. "A rundown of life in a compound you've frequented" - How the helll does this define black males? I'm deeply offended by this rubbish.
I fail to see how you can label everyone the same way. The fact I dislkie Islam for example doesn't mean to say I think all Muslims want to blow up planes.
Perhaps if you read my post properly,you will see it states "compounds of my acquaintance",i.e. more the the one you indicate. You have no idea how many compounds I am familiar with. I have clarified that I am speaking from my experience,which is all I have to work with. If you are offended then that was not my intent. My intent was to substantiate an earlier statement that you rubbished in advance of my defending myself. So,you and your friends behave in a different way to the males I have described? You clean,cook,go the to market,wash clothes,iron,fetch water,take water to your sisters,generally minister to their every need,etc.,etc. I think you can see where I am coming from,and quite frankly,I don't retract a word,
you say you don;t owe me an apology but by saying "Black males,regardless of religious beliefs, are brought up to think they are superior to women." you are saying that applies to me. This is not true. It is a lie. It is a massive assumption based on race which is absoloutley a case of racism. You admit to not knowing all black people so why make such an ignorant statement?
At the end of the day it has nothing to do with colour, it's culture, and if we males in England could do the same I doubt many of us wouldn't.
Black males living in compounds of my acquaintance. Go read the post again. Since I don't know you, my words do not apply specifically to you. I have no intention of getting into a slanging match with you.
As an independent male,I wouldn't. You are right,it is culture,and I already described it as such. Never was the phrase "it's a man's world" so appropriate.
I am with Kwame and Dragonborn here Vetch, your initial statement made no attempt to say that it was only those you met, you made a sweeping statement that regarded all black men to be the same, and as such I feel that it is only fair for you to apologise to Kwame. It is your opinion that the ones you have met are that way inclined, but your statement made no mention of that. Its like me saying muslims are nuts and are there to kill people, they are of course not all bad, but there are those out there who are, but its unfair to tar all with the same brush in a statement that tars them all with the same brush.
I have no wish for a slanging match either. My problem is your original quote which made NO mention of black males in compounds of your aquaintance. This is what you originally wrote: "Black males, regardless of religious beliefs are brought up to think they are superior to women" nothing else, which is why I was insulted, surely you can understand this?
My later post clarifies this and is more precise. You are right,I should have included the word,"some",or "of my acquaintance." I would have thought that readers would have realised that I couldn't possibly have known every male. You still haven't confirmed that you and your friends habitually carry out/carried out, all the chores that females do,despite your protestations that I was lying. That omission tells me a lot.
I think I have explained myself in subsequent posts, swans. Oh,and I have been called a liar,and all I have done is tell it as it is. But I don't need an apology.
We know now what you meant, however the offence was already caused, prior to your explanation, hence why I believe the apology should be forthcoming. The only comment about a lie that I have seen, is in regards to your initial statement, which was a very sweeping statement, which Kwame has every right to claim is a lie, as it puts him in that bracket. Like I said, the offence was caused prior to your explanation. Which makes a big difference.
What does any omission tell you? If you mean the ridiculous question that you asked: "You clean,cook,go the to market,wash clothes,iron,fetch water,take water to your sisters,generally minister to their every need,etc.,etc. I absoloutley do cook, clean, iron and wash my clothes? I'm bemused by your line of questioning. You are aware that not all black people in Africa live in poverty right? Why on earth would I take water to my sister? So why exactly did my omission tell you?
I think the lie comment referred to the content of my rather long winded post. However,if people think I was out of order then I apologise unreservedly to my African friend,Kwame. That in no way reflects on the content of my main post however,which I will defend as being an accurate summation of a day in the life of thos emales that I familiar with. Hopefully,this matter can close now,as it's getting rather tedious and repetitive.
I live in Accra, where I can assure you life is very different to what you have experienced. I see where you are coming from, I really do, but we as a black race exist so much beyond what you have seen, it hurts when I read stuff like I've read today. I apologise for calling you a liar, whatever your beliefs I will have to agree to disagree.
