Polygamy

Hiya Minxy. Sorry can't entertain any more. Mrs Dragonborn calls. :)

I did think my "squirrel with a palette" comment was quite funny though.
 
Well you have answered me now. <laugh>

And it confirms what I suspected since this debate started. You're either on a massive wind up or stone cold bonkers. <laugh>

Consensus of scientific opinion based on known facts. That's what science is. It's not guesswork.

On the killings that take place in the Bible, how is that reconciled with the 6th commandment? How is it reconciled with the Christian ethos of turning the other cheek? Too many ifs and buts and provisos for me. :)

"A day with the creator is 1,000 years"? Where's that from? Sounds like something the religious lobby would invent under mounting scepticism. [Edit: It's from Peter (an English name) and has been taken out of context by believers to justify a re-interperetation of Genesis. The verse actually speaks of god's patience and the context is absolutely nothing to do with creation. More cherry picking I'm afraid.]

Recorded history of man is 6,000 years? Really???? Who made the cave paintings going back 40,000 years? A talented squirrel brandishing a palette?

You either accept scientific evidence or you don't. Religious acolytes have a history of changing their position as the evidence overtakes them. Even the Church recognises Darwinism these days so your views are behind the times and if I may say so rather extreme. But that's your call and as I said before you can believe whatever you please.

You say Darwinism is effectively "not rational, intelligent, or logical to even consider" yet it's rational, intelligent and logical to believe that god made the earth, along with Adam and Eve (always wondered how they had such English names) and that Noah got all those animals in his ark when the rains came. I could go on.

Logical? Rational? Intelligent? Hardly.

EDIT: That article refers to the Yucatan impact as the "most plausible" theory. <ok> Probably a combination of factors imo of which that was one.




Well you did ask!.................<laugh>




My wife reckons i'm stone cold bonkers!..............<laugh>



"Consensus of scientific opinion based on known facts. That's what science is. It's not guesswork."


Oh yes it is, most of this is guesswork, and what known facts? just give me one that proves they dissapeared 65 Million years ago!.............<ok>



"Who made the cave paintings going back 40,000 years? A talented squirrel brandishing a palette?"


Who says those paintings are 40,000 years old? The squirrel by the sound of it!...............<laugh>
 
"You either accept scientific evidence or you don't." - Dragonborn



What evidence? you no your Scientists have provided a shred of evidence yet! You can only speculate about what caused them to disappear, and such speculation is meaningless without hard evidence, your Scientists are wasting too much time and effort on a question that can never really be answered satisfactorily................<ok>




By the way calling all Atheists, Evolution is a man made theory, Evolution is utter nonsense, Evolution is based on age old lies, Evolution is not science at all. It is not testable, observable nor verifiable, Evolution is a complete fabrication without a shred of evidence!...................<laugh>
 
How do scientists know there were dinosaurs at all

Maybe God just made bones & buried them ..... knowing man wouldn't be able to resist putting them together like a jigsaw & make up stories about them :D
 
Sixty-five million years ago the dinosaurs died out along with more than 50% of other life forms on the planet. This mass extinction is so dramatic that for many years it was used to mark the boundary between the Cretaceous Period, when the last dinosaurs lived, and the Tertiary Period, when no dinosaurs remained. This is called the Cretaceous/Tertiary (or K/T) boundary, and the associated extinction is often termed the K/T extinction event.The name "Tertiary" is a holdover from the early days of geology, and many geologists now prefer the term "Paleogene" for the time period that immediately follows the Cretaceous. These scientists refer to the Cretaceous/Paleogene or K/P boundary, which represents the same moment in time as the K/T event. Since their discovery in the nineteenth century, the reason for the dinosaurs' demise has been a matter of speculation and debate. Early paleontologists, working prior to Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, suggested that dinosaurs represented the remains of animals that had perished in the Biblical Flood. This explained both the fact and speed of their disappearance. But as other extinctions came to light, and Darwin's theory gained acceptance, this explanation fell out of favor.

For many decades, the fossil record of dinosaurs was poorly known. During that time it was clear that dinosaurs had gone extinct, but it was not yet understood that this extinction was relatively sudden and simultaneous with those of many other species. Only at the end of the nineteenth century did paleontologists realize that nearly all dinosaurs had gone extinct within a brief period of time at the end of the Cretaceous Period.

For most of the next century, scientists focused on explanations for how the extinction might have occurred. Most theories focused on climate change, perhaps brought on by volcanism, lowering sea level, and shifting continents. But hundreds of other theories were developed, some reasonable but others rather far-fetched (including decimation by visiting aliens, widespread dinosaur "wars", and "paläoweltschmertz"*the idea that dinosaurs just got tired and went extinct). It was often popularly thought that the evolving mammals simply ate enough of the dinosaurs' eggs to drive them to extinction.

Regardless of the details, most of these theories shared the common thought that dinosaurs were a group of animals that had reached the end of their evolutionary life. Their extinction was seen as inevitable, the product of having evolved for too long. In most extinction scenarios, the dinosaurs were simply unable to cope with competition from mammals and the changing climate, and so they all went extinct.

As dinosaur science began to alter this hypothesis, producing a new view of dinosaurs as successful and viable organisms, many of these extinction theories became less tenable. New information from fossil localities suggested that many other organisms, most unrelated to dinosaurs, had also gone extinct at the same time. New theories were required to explain these new discoveries and newly understood facts. A favored theory was that tectonically induced climate change interfered with food chains, disrupting them enough to cause widespread extinction among many different organisms. - paleobiology



There are many more pages to this Hypothesis, and that's all it is...............<ok>
 
Sixty-five million years ago the dinosaurs died out along with more than 50% of other life forms on the planet. This mass extinction is so dramatic that for many years it was used to mark the boundary between the Cretaceous Period, when the last dinosaurs lived, and the Tertiary Period, when no dinosaurs remained. This is called the Cretaceous/Tertiary (or K/T) boundary, and the associated extinction is often termed the K/T extinction event.The name "Tertiary" is a holdover from the early days of geology, and many geologists now prefer the term "Paleogene" for the time period that immediately follows the Cretaceous. These scientists refer to the Cretaceous/Paleogene or K/P boundary, which represents the same moment in time as the K/T event. Since their discovery in the nineteenth century, the reason for the dinosaurs' demise has been a matter of speculation and debate. Early paleontologists, working prior to Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, suggested that dinosaurs represented the remains of animals that had perished in the Biblical Flood. This explained both the fact and speed of their disappearance. But as other extinctions came to light, and Darwin's theory gained acceptance, this explanation fell out of favor.

For many decades, the fossil record of dinosaurs was poorly known. During that time it was clear that dinosaurs had gone extinct, but it was not yet understood that this extinction was relatively sudden and simultaneous with those of many other species. Only at the end of the nineteenth century did paleontologists realize that nearly all dinosaurs had gone extinct within a brief period of time at the end of the Cretaceous Period.

For most of the next century, scientists focused on explanations for how the extinction might have occurred. Most theories focused on climate change, perhaps brought on by volcanism, lowering sea level, and shifting continents. But hundreds of other theories were developed, some reasonable but others rather far-fetched (including decimation by visiting aliens, widespread dinosaur "wars", and "paläoweltschmertz"*the idea that dinosaurs just got tired and went extinct). It was often popularly thought that the evolving mammals simply ate enough of the dinosaurs' eggs to drive them to extinction.

Regardless of the details, most of these theories shared the common thought that dinosaurs were a group of animals that had reached the end of their evolutionary life. Their extinction was seen as inevitable, the product of having evolved for too long. In most extinction scenarios, the dinosaurs were simply unable to cope with competition from mammals and the changing climate, and so they all went extinct.

As dinosaur science began to alter this hypothesis, producing a new view of dinosaurs as successful and viable organisms, many of these extinction theories became less tenable. New information from fossil localities suggested that many other organisms, most unrelated to dinosaurs, had also gone extinct at the same time. New theories were required to explain these new discoveries and newly understood facts. A favored theory was that tectonically induced climate change interfered with food chains, disrupting them enough to cause widespread extinction among many different organisms. - paleobiology



There are many more pages to this Hypothesis, and that's all it is...............<ok>

"Sixty five million years ago the dinosaurs died out"

Not true Dragon,there's at least two living on North Gower. <laugh>
 
That's a valid arguement! But the bigger picture is that the creator was questioned on his universal sovreignty and his rightfulness to rule and as such is allowing suffient time to pass to see if his accuser is right or wrong, that acuser is of course the original slanderer the Devil himself, and in the fulness of time I'm sure that it will become evident to all in the cosmos, as well as on planet earth, that man cannot rule himself independent of his creator, and the evidence is mounting daily!..............<ok>


By the way, who's crashing those planes? Who's not feeding the children? Why is it they can get arms, but not food, and who is killing them? It certainly is not the creator, of course he cares, he cares very much.

"of course he cares,he cares very much".

Well,Dragon,he seemingly didn't "care much" for Cardiff City,he's allowed them to be relegated.

All that praying by Sparkey and his crew, came to nowt in the end.

My case rests. <laugh><laugh>
 
Not really! When man was first created, he was created perfect and death was not part of the picture, but because of man's disobediance and rebelion he was sentanced to death, that sentance was carried out in 'that day' a day with the creator is a thousand years. Methuselah's lived 969 years, Adam lived 930, God told Adam that in the day he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die. God's days are 1,000 of men's years. So Adam died in the same day of God's time that he ate the "fruit". Men lived longer until the flood, at which time God decreed that the badness of man was so bad that he felt regret at his creation, and so he limited the years of men to 120, so there was a huge drop in our life span after the flood, by the way why does every civilisation have a 'Legend of a great flood' and what does the Chinese word Hóng, (flood) actually mean? I'll let you find that one out! Did you know that the ancient Chinese new of Noah before the Bible or the old Hebrew scriptures were written? Noah's name in Hebrew No'akh, and in Chinese He is called Nuòyà.

You're just regurgitating a myth as if t's a fact. No evidence at all for any of it.


Back to your original critisism, why is it that medical science is always attempting to prolong life? And why is it that death is such an enemy? Is it because we have eternity in our hearts? and why is it that a tree can live for 5000 years, and a Dynastic Clam, an ocean quahog, scientifically known as Arctica islandica lived for 507 years, before dying in 2006? Birds living passed 80+ years and Giant tortoises which are famous for living as long as 130 years?

So is it possible that pre flood man did actually live longer?


Simplistic nonsense.

If A can do something then why can't B also.

Man isn't a tree.
 
Not really! When man was first created, he was created perfect and death was not part of the picture, but because of man's disobediance and rebelion he was sentanced to death, that sentance was carried out in 'that day' a day with the creator is a thousand years. Methuselah's lived 969 years, Adam lived 930, God told Adam that in the day he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die. God's days are 1,000 of men's years. So Adam died in the same day of God's time that he ate the "fruit". Men lived longer until the flood, at which time God decreed that the badness of man was so bad that he felt regret at his creation, and so he limited the years of men to 120, so there was a huge drop in our life span after the flood, by the way why does every civilisation have a 'Legend of a great flood' and what does the Chinese word Hóng, (flood) actually mean? I'll let you find that one out! Did you know that the ancient Chinese new of Noah before the Bible or the old Hebrew scriptures were written? Noah's name in Hebrew No'akh, and in Chinese He is called Nuòyà.

Back to your original critisism, why is it that medical science is always attempting to prolong life? And why is it that death is such an enemy? Is it because we have eternity in our hearts? and why is it that a tree can live for 5000 years, and a Dynastic Clam, an ocean quahog, scientifically known as Arctica islandica lived for 507 years, before dying in 2006? Birds living passed 80+ years and Giant tortoises which are famous for living as long as 130 years?



So is it possible that pre flood man did actually live longer?

That's like me saying, because the lifespan of a fly is 15-30 days, or a worker bee lives for just 40-50 days, that pre flood we lived shorter lives, so we died quicker, and god days were the equivalent of our hours. Load of bollocks lol. And that is why we keep trying to live longer, so we can stop dying so soon. Mythical nonsense for the weak minded IMO.

As for the limit, he didn't do a very good job at putting that limit in place

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There clearly is a loop hole somewhere, either that, ro he is not the all seeing person some believe he is, and he ****ed up.

As for Noah and the Chinese

The flood even reached to the heavens and the sun, and covered all the living creatures even high mountains. In the middle of these calamity period, a hero named Noah(&#22899;&#23301;) appeared and filled the holes in the sky with colorful stones and fixed the broken poles using four turtle legs. She helped the living creatures, humans and animals to repopulate in the world.

So the water reached to the sun and the heaven, wierd, the sun is a long way away, Noah is a women, but is Male in the Bible. So someone is lying, and if they are lying about that, what else are they lying about?

And whats all this **** about filling holes in the sky with stones lol. Its just mumbo jumbo bullshit lol. Turtle legs hahaha.
 
By the way, who's crashing those planes? Who's not feeding the children? Why is it they can get arms, but not food, and who is killing them? It certainly is not the creator, of course he cares, he cares very much.

So in other words, God ****ed up when he made man, and did not have the decency to fix his mistakes. What a cock he must have been.
 
I'm actually amazed that anyone believes this stuff. Even most modern Christians don't accept a lot of the content I've seen here. Entertaining though. <ok>