Any chance Infantile will ask for his peace prize back. Donald the Peacemaker has attacked another country. Perhaps he is a peace maker when he calls off his own attack dogs.
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So the individual that demanded a Nobel Peace Prize is busy starting World War 3?
This has aged well.
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Usual policy of president ***** getting unwanted attention so drops bombs somewhere far away. Everyone pivots to talk about the new thing.
I don’t think you have. But the interesting thing is most of them think Reform is “too centrist” and “part of the uni party”
The terminally online right wing types are mostly pro-Rupert Lowe. But they are obviously reacting curiously to this election because they should be screaming “I told you so” and trying to use it to justifiably the flight to Lowe’s outfit but instead they seem to be parroting all of reforms complaints against the greens
Incidentally James O’Brien used to mocking forget the name of all the right wing parties especially those beginning with R (mainly in reference to the Lawrence Fox one). But I genuinely forget and get confused by Lowe’s. Is it Restore or Reclaim? It’s Restore isn’t it ?
Booked flights to Bali Friday hours before the tangerine turd dropped his bombs. Just as well they've jumped €100 overnight.
Iran seems fairly isolated on the word stage, so i hope that this won’t escalate any further.
Islamic extremism has been a serious blight to the freedoms of many around the world and if it’s biggest base and funder can be stopped, then we’re all better off
Islamic extremism has been a serious blight to the freedoms of many around the world and if it’s biggest base and funder can be stopped, then we’re all better off
No doubt Trump will castigate Eueop
I do think it will impact the provision of drones to Russia. It is just a matter of who fills the vacuum. It did think that North Korea might start getting anxious.
This looks a bit optimistic. I agree it will dent funding of Shi'ite terrorists but i thought other terrorism like Al Qaeda stemmed from Sunni islam. I am surprised that Trump is confident to push for regime change. Looks like the result will be chaos and not democracy.
I do think it will impact the provision of drones to Russia. It is just a matter of who fills the vacuum. It did think that North Korea might start getting anxious.
That's Bali high?
Noticing all the opportunistic politician hot takes going on re the Iran situation, but on this one I don't actually see how else Starmer could have played it in the context;
- The US and Israeli initial attack is very likely illegal (not that they care), we were right not to contribute to that offensive. (Priti Patel and Farage think we should have been part of this).
- The US and Israeli plan so far appears to be encouraging regime change from the air. If the plan (as it currently appears) was to kill the Ayatollah, drop a few bombs on the IRGC and see how the dice roll, then even from a hard power perspective this is not a plan worthy of kicking this all off in the first place. You should only attempt these things with a clear vision. Obviously though we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, but given the people involved I do not have confidence.
- No one should be mourning the Ayatollah or defending the IRGC.
- We should remain sympathetic to Iranian civilians and the US and Israel should face scrutiny for civilian casualties (they won't).
- Although we (rightfully) stayed out of the initial offensive, we cannot allow our bases or our regional allies to be freely attacked, regardless of the initial cause. We are right to take action to defend them. (Polanski seems to have a problem with this, so how does he propose we stop our own people from being killed?).
Starmer is going to get pelters from all quarters on this, but in this case I actually don't see how he could have handled it differently - The Conservatives and Reform would have had us break international law and responsible for what may well become a regional disaster. The Greens would have us stand back and let our bases, our people and our allies be attacked without defence.
- The US and Israeli initial attack is very likely illegal (not that they care), we were right not to contribute to that offensive. (Priti Patel and Farage think we should have been part of this).
- The US and Israeli plan so far appears to be encouraging regime change from the air. If the plan (as it currently appears) was to kill the Ayatollah, drop a few bombs on the IRGC and see how the dice roll, then even from a hard power perspective this is not a plan worthy of kicking this all off in the first place. You should only attempt these things with a clear vision. Obviously though we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, but given the people involved I do not have confidence.
- No one should be mourning the Ayatollah or defending the IRGC.
- We should remain sympathetic to Iranian civilians and the US and Israel should face scrutiny for civilian casualties (they won't).
- Although we (rightfully) stayed out of the initial offensive, we cannot allow our bases or our regional allies to be freely attacked, regardless of the initial cause. We are right to take action to defend them. (Polanski seems to have a problem with this, so how does he propose we stop our own people from being killed?).
Starmer is going to get pelters from all quarters on this, but in this case I actually don't see how he could have handled it differently - The Conservatives and Reform would have had us break international law and responsible for what may well become a regional disaster. The Greens would have us stand back and let our bases, our people and our allies be attacked without defence.
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Why do we need a defence in this part of the world other than to support authoritarian regimes that have got súper rich because of oil? What a pity Harold Wilson didn't take us out of this part of the world entirely.
Pushing for régime change is just a smokescreen on many levels for Trump. He does not care oñe iota for Iranian people, whatever their outlook. Firstly, with a war the price of oil will increase substantially, thus filling the coffers of Trump's billionaire friends. Secondly, it is a further excuse to spend more on US military, and who benefits from this? And thirdly, it is a distractor from the Epstein Files where his name has been redacted many times over.
And lo and behold, this is happening!
Oil prices jump and shares fall as conflict escalates
Experts have warned that a prolonged conflict could push global energy prices even higher.
www.bbc.com
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It's going to be a bit gauling when the upcoming US and Israeli driven inflation spike inevitably drives populations to Trump's buddys (RN, AFD, Reform etc..) as populations fail to put two and two together that this Iran conflict will send oil and general energy prices through the roof.
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I can see th is as being more of a disaster than Iraq. T he BBC was arguing that America cannot provide missiles in the density to fight Iran without compromising its ability to comfront China. Iran can ration their missiles and continue to cause serious issues even with limited missile and drone stock. Trump will never bring down rhe iranian regime by air power.
Starmer criticises Trump over Iran strikes, as he defends UK position
The PM told MPs that Trump had expressed his disagreement with the decision not to get involved in the initial strikes.
www.bbc.co.uk
Talk about mixed messages! Hypocrisy and ignorance rampant in Parliament...
You think Trump wants global inflation because it well help Farage get elected in 3 years?
He cares about his own prospects in the midterms, not anyone elses. US voters care much more about their pockets than the iranian regime, if this does lead to significant global inflation, it will have severe consequences for Trump.
I don't think he is thinking of it, I think it will be an unintended consequence.
I also think that IF the US midterms go ahead unimpeded the Republicans are set to be annihilated and this will only make it worse.
Its a big IF though.