Off Topic Politics Thread

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The Conservatives didn’t just coddle them, they openly encouraged them with their relentless anti immigrant rhetoric from, at least, 2013, when Theresa May unleashed the “hostile environment” vans.
For at least 11 years the Tory party has driven this anti immigrant agenda and done nothing to stop the likes of Tate, Robinson and Farage from stepping up the pressure.
The sad thing is that if Labour cannot improve the economy and the feeling of wellbeing in the country those voters who lent them their vote will in all likelihood return to the Conservative Party and return them to a position where the hatred becomes even stronger.
The media has to get a grip too and stop giving airtime to the hate mongers, especially BBCQT that has only, iirc, had 3 guests who have appeared more times than Farage.


No more Stop The Boats headlines, hopefully.

I see the Mail is now feigning outrage, but I wonder how their readers feel about the hooligans the paper has been gaslighting for years.
 
I meant in my post. Of course there have been racist twats out the last couple of weeks. It’s disgusting.

My point is that the government are incorrectly labelling everyone - even those with VALID CONCERNS as far right.

I could equally post videos and images of Muslims out hunting white people this week. There are bad eggs in every community.

Yes the government(s) have not done enough, but this all started after the murder of three girls. How disrespectful can these scum bags be.

I'd be defending myself too if I wasn't Caucasian right now. It's scary times.

We've got people with money and power stirring the pot and causing more division and creating distraction.
We argue whilst they laugh in their ivory towers. We are the pawns. Anyway, we've all got more in common with people seeking refuge than billionaires or most politicians.
 
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Yes the government haven't done enough, but this all started after the murder of three girls. How disrespectful can these people be.

I'd be defending myself too if I wasn't Caucasian right now. It's scary times.

The horrific incident was just the straw that broke the camels back.

All I am trying to say is that I don’t think it helps anyone to pretend that everyone involved is far right. I am seeing far too much of it everywhere and in my opinion by minimising the concerns of people in these towns things will only get worse.
 
The horrific incident was just the straw that broke the camels back.

All I am trying to say is that I don’t think it helps anyone to pretend that everyone involved is far right. I am seeing far too much of it everywhere and in my opinion by minimising the concerns of people in these towns things will only get worse.

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That's fine, I get your point. But the same can be said that not all people who support a ceasefire are extreme lefties with low testosterone. There's so much division it's giving me a headache.

As someone else pointed out, my partner is black and we have a mixed race child... I fear for their safety right now. I'm considering moving abroad, I guess I will be seeking refuge myself.
 
A reminder from James O’Brien that a white man killed a black kid with a sword, and there were no riots.
https://youtube.com/shorts/YiV1Ce3SKWM?si=5GtEKne8qn1ocyq3

This is a silly game to start playing because I can list many, many violent incidents that were carried out by people not originally born in the UK, and people didn’t riot.

It’s disingenuous to say that there isn’t a reason behind these riots. People have been fed up for ages of the hotels full of people. They have been fed up of watching boats arrive with zero police presence. A lot of people (especially up north) feel completely neglected by the political establishment and like second class citizens in their own country.

No one knows how many violent criminals are living in the UK right now plotting more murders like the one we saw last week. It’s literally impossible to know because our border laws have been so pathetically lax. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say it’s a national security risk.

It’s possible to think these issues are worth protesting over, without being a far right extremist, or racist in my opinion. Voting to slow immigration simply hasn’t worked. The Tories said they will control our borders - they failed. Labour have come in and don’t seem to have any way to control our borders either.

What Starmer is doing by gaslighting the public that these issues don’t exist is only going to make things worse.
 
This is a silly game to start playing because I can list many, many violent incidents that were carried out by people not originally born in the UK, and people didn’t riot.

It’s disingenuous to say that there isn’t a reason behind these riots. People have been fed up for ages of the hotels full of people. They have been fed up of watching boats arrive with zero police presence. A lot of people (especially up north) feel completely neglected by the political establishment and like second class citizens in their own country.

No one knows how many violent criminals are living in the UK right now plotting more murders like the one we saw last week. It’s literally impossible to know because our border laws have been so pathetically lax. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say it’s a national security risk.

It’s possible to think these issues are worth protesting over, without being a far right extremist, or racist in my opinion. Voting to slow immigration simply hasn’t worked. The Tories said they will control our borders - they failed. Labour have come in and don’t seem to have any way to control our borders either.

What Starmer is doing by gaslighting the public that these issues don’t exist is only going to make things worse.

Worth protesting over is very different to “setting hotels and libraries on fire” though.
 
Worth protesting over is very different to “setting hotels and libraries on fire” though.

I couldn’t agree more with that.

But people are very quick to say “it’s only a few bad eggs” at the pro Palestine marches or the BLM marches.

Yet here the government want to entirely block the conversations from happening based on the actions of the violent dickheads. That’s why I made a joke about Keir Stalin.

He has a dangerous authoritarian streak in him as far as I can see
 
I couldn’t agree more with that.

But people are very quick to say “it’s only a few bad eggs” at the pro Palestine marches or the BLM marches.

Yet here the government want to entirely block the conversations from happening based on the actions of the violent dickheads. That’s why I made a joke about Keir Stalin.

He has a dangerous authoritarian streak in him as far as I can see


I hope he gives free rein to his inner Stalin. The violent scum that have been terrorising communities need sweeping off the streets and putting in gaol.
 
I hope he gives free rein to his inner Stalin. The violent scum that have been terrorising communities need sweeping off the streets and putting in gaol.

And now we come full circle and see why I say left wing politics is far more insidious than the right.

When you feel that your views are the virtuous ones, there is no evil that seems unjust.

In truth these people deserve fair trials. Zooming even further out, they shouldn’t be there at all as the government should have kept their promises and brought down immigration instead of 10x’ing it.

Jeremy Clarkson said it best:

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State of this ****. Imagine having to tell your kids you're going to prison because you decided to loot a Greggs and Lush <laugh>

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This guy is in a video on the beeb attacking a car. Worth a watch just to see him fail to break the window with his elbow and then hold it in pain <laugh>

His charge sheet reads:

Violent disorder
Three counts of robbery
Two counts of burglary
Criminal damage


No suspended sentence for him this time!
 
I assume our resident troll won’t take this as a joke.
And now we come full circle and see why I say left wing politics is far more insidious than the right.

When you feel that your views are the virtuous ones, there is no evil that seems unjust.

In truth these people deserve fair trials. Zooming even further out, they shouldn’t be there at all as the government should have kept their promises and brought down immigration instead of 10x’ing it.

Jeremy Clarkson said it best:

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'These people' deserve fair trials and they'll get them. Those found guilty deserve hefty sentences, and hopefully they'll get those too.

I said the same thing following the 2011 riots btw, when Keir Starmer was the public prosecutor responsible for the 'swift and severe' reaction.

Jeremy Clarkson ffs <laugh>
 
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Remember you saying you were living in the Philippines before, my fiance is a Filipina and one of many Filipino nurses doing a stellar job for this country at UHS/SGH, I couldn't be prouder of her and I am in no doubt she contributes more to this country in her little finger than these rodent troglodytes achieve in their entire miserable, gutter existence.

I am hopeful that the people of Southampton will firmly reject any attempt to attack any minority ethnicity populations, there is a rumour that the EDL are going to rock up at Cumberland Place on Wednesday (funnily enough when we play Lazio at St Marys), but will definitely be keeping an eye out to try and ensure that we avoid any potential risks.

This is the Conservative legacy of coddling these absolute morons and depleting policing as well as wider law and order, it has enabled them to feel confident enough to put their heads above the parapet.

I wouldn't say I am ashamed to be English as such because I see them as anti-English and anti-British as they dont have the countries values and interests at heart. But I am very angry about it and honestly struggle to stop myself from wishing violence upon these individuals.

I do acknowledge this is also because the Government of the UK has failed the people of this country for too long (through poor access to education and support) and left some of our poorest open to radicalization, but some would always have grown up to be facist ****s.
All so true and as you say ...
(bold) this is not English or British it is a minority
and (underlined) we have created an underclass that's open to radicalisation
 
'These people' deserve fair trials and they'll get them. Those found guilty deserve hefty sentences, and hopefully they'll get those too.

I said the same thing following the 2011 riots btw, when Keir Starmer was the public prosecutor responsible for the 'swift and severe' reaction.

Jeremy Clarkson ffs <laugh>
Gosh if you are ever citing Jeremy Clarkson on politics then you’ve jumped the sharks. He’s done well recently highlighting the plight of British farmers (cough - due to Brexit). But this is a lane he should stay out of

I expect these people didn’t think they were going to prison. Many are likely in for a rude awakening. No statute of limitations on this. So if they are caught and convicted they will be going