Off Topic Politics Thread

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Jon Sopel on LBC makes a very strong case for either Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California, or Gretchen Whitmer, the Governor of Michigan, to be announced in a brokered Democratic Convention. Either would completely disrupt the whole Trump campaign as he wouldn’t have anything, true or made up, to throw at either of them.
He’d make stuff up soon enough. The real concern is that he will get to crow about forcing Biden to back down. And selecting someone who didn’t win the Democratic primary will look controversial as well. There isn’t a good outcome here that I can see for democrats / anti Trump people

Well there sort of is but I don’t want to say it out loud
 
Has anyone else been following the Jay Slater story. I guess it's not politics as such, so probs not for here.

Seems like there’s rather more to it than that…

Yes I've been following it quite closely, and I think it is more than just an unfortunate case of an innocent youngster getting lost in the mountains.
Slater has a criminal conviction involving severe violence meted out by him and his associates using a machete. It was all connected to drug dealing including the victim.
That much is fact.

There have been a lot of comments made on internet platforms regarding the woman he was with and her drug dealing reputation on Tenerife. How reliable that is remains to be seen.
In the rest of the X fluff it is difficult to know what is true or is the usual speculation but the general theme is that he is either hiding or has "disappeared" as Tony Soprano would say. I know that makes the story more interesting but given his history it all sounds quite believable to me.
 
I find i weird how no one has mentioned this yet about 'Reform'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c10l5qd8p60o

Some may say it is the ramblings of a minority, but IMO unfortunately, it is probably how a lot of Reform voters think. Yes, our views on the world are shaped by personal experiences, but it doesn't make them right.


It’s who they are mate, be in no doubt.. Farage and Tice are smart enough to stay just the right side of the line of supposed respectability, but their followers aren’t.

Reform are BNP Light, just as the BNP were the NF in business suits.
 
What’s happened to her? I recall she was seen as the “heir apparent” not so long ago?
I’m not sure she ever was. She was picked as VP for precisely the reasons outlined earlier - she checked a lot of boxes. Identity politics. I don’t agree with Os about many things on this thread but on this one I expect we align - you can’t pick people just because they tick boxes.

She was extremely unpopular even among democrats I think because she was a DA / prosecutor. I think with many that basically made her on the side of the “cops”.

She was picked for all the wrong reasons. I can’t even remember who the other options were at the time. Usually you go for someone who is from one of the swing states to try and tip it. But with polarisation being how it is these days I expect that is less of a concern. Picking the Stacy Abrams wasn’t guaranteed to increase Biden’s margin in Georgia and might even have gone the other way. Popular figures on one side are now more polarising it seems
 
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I’m not sure she ever was. She was picked as VP for precisely the reasons outlined earlier - she checked a lot of boxes. Identity politics. I don’t agree with Os about many things on this thread but on this one I expect we align - you can’t pick people just because they tick boxes.

She was extremely unpopular even among democrats I think because she was a DA / prosecutor. I think with many that basically made her on the side of the “cops”.

She was picked for all the wrong reasons. I can’t even remember who the other options were at the time. Usually you go for someone who is from one of the swing states to try and tip it. But with polarisation being how it is these days I expect that is less of a concern. Picking the Stacy Abrams wasn’t guaranteed to increase Biden’s margin in Georgia and might even have gone the other way. Popular figures on one side are now more polarising it seems

She's just a nothing of a politician. Would be worse than running with Biden.
 
A pose those of you thinking of voting Reform may need to perfect unless you want to gag on the stench when making your cross on the ballot paper.

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I’m not sure she ever was. She was picked as VP for precisely the reasons outlined earlier - she checked a lot of boxes. Identity politics. I don’t agree with Os about many things on this thread but on this one I expect we align - you can’t pick people just because they tick boxes.

She was extremely unpopular even among democrats I think because she was a DA / prosecutor. I think with many that basically made her on the side of the “cops”.

She was picked for all the wrong reasons. I can’t even remember who the other options were at the time. Usually you go for someone who is from one of the swing states to try and tip it. But with polarisation being how it is these days I expect that is less of a concern. Picking the Stacy Abrams wasn’t guaranteed to increase Biden’s margin in Georgia and might even have gone the other way. Popular figures on one side are now more polarising it seems
Then it seems the Dems are absolutely ****ed. Biden can’t survive this & if they’ve no credible #2, where do they go with a vote spread which is fairly close? In business, key is sucession planning. They are a joke.
 
It’s who they are mate, be in no doubt.. Farage and Tice are smart enough to stay just the right side of the line of supposed respectability, but their followers aren’t.

Reform are BNP Light, just as the BNP were the NF in business suits.


It is rather funny how the bar for being ‘racist’ has basically become 'I don't think that the mass importation of a million foreigners in the last year was good'
 
The latest estimates on migration from the Office for National Statistics. In 2023: 1.2 million people migrated into the UK and 532,000 people emigrated from it, leaving a net migration figure of 685,000. This forecast to fall to 350,000 approximately by 2030 the vast majority being non EU.
 
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