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It's Only A Game said:
Whoa there Ides! I take the dog for a walk and come back to this nonsense, you seem to be looking for racism when it is clearly not there. And to be honest, people who do that seriously damage the anti racism campaign. I'm not really sure what your motive is but just calm it down a bit.
As for belittling Diane Abbott? She is a politician who is judged by what she says and does, so is Corbyn and so is McDonnell. I dislike them all and will continue to criticise them whenever I feel like it. I don't have to say anything nice about them or nasty about Lord Frost just to restore your faith in me. I don't think you are dealing very well with opposing views, which let's face it don't get seen on here very often.
And as for being balanced, if that was a prerequisite for posting here this board would be empty. I've been reading this politics thread for a long time and from my experience there are lots of posters that are unbalanced.:biggrin:
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The reason why we are "unbalanced" is because of the damage being done to the UK economy and reputatión by the Johnson Government. Proper Tories would never sanction what the current PM.is doing. Heseltine, Major, Mellor, Stewart, Grieve, Soubry, Hammond. So criticism comes from all sides.

As for Diane Abbott, I love her to bits as a person regardless of her polítics. She is Labour's answer to the Tories Edwina Currie, another interesting personality.
 
Osvaldorama said:
Pretty much spot on. Exactly the way I see it. The rich and powerful have been extremely clever:

They deliberately have associated left-wing politics with extreme liberalism, in order that all of the very serious left-wing points about wealth inequality can be thrown away with the bath water. They have succeeded in splitting the Labour Party fully.

In all honesty the more I have studied politics and economics, the more I have realised that the current system is beyond broken, with neither party representing the interests of the common working man/woman.

They have raised the taxes for middle and working class people again without closing any of the tax loopholes that the 1% exploit. They have simultaneously printed limitless money, whilst cutting public spending, decimating the NHS & public services and given their pals billions in the process.

They don’t incentivise strong family units, they discourage saving by debasing the currency, they have reduced the education system to the point where it’s probably better to home schooled. They are fostering a sense of hopelessness by banging on about climate disasters and covid deaths as much as possible, meanwhile they fly in private jets and attend galas without masks and vaccines themselves. They undercut British workers by allowing as much cheap labour into the country as possible, then caused Brexit which undercut British businesses at the expense of bureaucracy.

I believe there will be a tipping point in the not-too-distant future where taxes and high inflation mean there will be violence and civil unrest as people can no longer afford rent & food - although I hope I am wrong about that.

Unfortunately, I just don’t trust politicians from either side of the political spectrum any more; to be either competent or to have the countries best interests at heart. It is pretty obvious to me that national governments aren’t fit for purpose in their current form as they are too prone to corruption and too slow to adapt to the pace of the modern world.
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Unfortunately, here here! Or is it hear, hear<laugh>
 
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It's Only A Game said:
Ides

Politics is probably the most divisive subject on this board and there are always going to be disagreements. You may not like me but no reason to fall out.<smooch>

Anyway that said, I hear you are a pompey fan you skate c***.
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I support Bournemouth, Pompey and Southampton as they are all teams in the área where I lived for many years. I also look out for the results of our local non-league teams.

Now back to Johnson bashing!!
 
Osvaldorama said:
Pretty much spot on. Exactly the way I see it. The rich and powerful have been extremely clever:

They deliberately have associated left-wing politics with extreme liberalism, in order that all of the very serious left-wing points about wealth inequality can be thrown away with the bath water. They have succeeded in splitting the Labour Party fully.

In all honesty the more I have studied politics and economics, the more I have realised that the current system is beyond broken, with neither party representing the interests of the common working man/woman.

They have raised the taxes for middle and working class people again without closing any of the tax loopholes that the 1% exploit. They have simultaneously printed limitless money, whilst cutting public spending, decimating the NHS & public services and given their pals billions in the process.

They don’t incentivise strong family units, they discourage saving by debasing the currency, they have reduced the education system to the point where it’s probably better to home schooled. They are fostering a sense of hopelessness by banging on about climate disasters and covid deaths as much as possible, meanwhile they fly in private jets and attend galas without masks and vaccines themselves. They undercut British workers by allowing as much cheap labour into the country as possible, then caused Brexit which undercut British businesses at the expense of bureaucracy.

I believe there will be a tipping point in the not-too-distant future where taxes and high inflation mean there will be violence and civil unrest as people can no longer afford rent & food - although I hope I am wrong about that.

Unfortunately, I just don’t trust politicians from either side of the political spectrum any more; to be either competent or to have the countries best interests at heart. It is pretty obvious to me that national governments aren’t fit for purpose in their current form as they are too prone to corruption and too slow to adapt to the pace of the modern world.
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And divided the working population such that we are all arguing about left and right and whatever, while they continue to manipulate the world to their own ends
 
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