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tomw24 said:
Firstly he's a hypocrite. He's been calling for a general election for months and then the first opportunity he gets he rejects the chance. Either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. And as far as Brexit is concerned he's simply trying to block it rather than come up with alternative options apart from a second referendum. He's more concerned about his own political career than he is about the country. There's a reason why Labour aren't winning general elections. He's a knob and he's damaging Labour as a whole. I refuse to vote Labour while he's in charge.
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Do you refuse to vote Tory while Boris is in charge?
 
fatletiss said:
Do you refuse to vote Tory while Boris is in charge?
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I haven't voted Tory for years. I did vote Labour last time but I feel I can no longer do so. I'm just sick of this full stop so I probably won't be voting in the next general election.
 
tomw24 said:
Firstly he's a hypocrite. He's been calling for a general election for months and then the first opportunity he gets he rejects the chance. Either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. And as far as Brexit is concerned he's simply trying to block it rather than come up with alternative options apart from a second referendum. He's more concerned about his own political career than he is about the country. There's a reason why Labour aren't winning general elections. He's a knob and he's damaging Labour as a whole. I refuse to vote Labour while he's in charge.
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The important thing at the moment is to stop a No Deal Brexit, which would have happened by default if Labour had voted for an early election. It still could. You aren’t looking at the bigger picture, but just repeating the knee-jerk stuff spouted by the Tories.

I do agree that Corbyn’s stance on Brexit has been confusing to say the least, but at least he has now unequivocally backed a second referendum. I know he has said he could get a better deal than Johnson but when it comes down to it there is no possible deal which doesn’t inflict huge damage on this country, so stopping Brexit altogether is the only possible way forward. I’ll be marching in that cause on Saturday, and I urge anyone who loves this country to do the same.
 
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tomw24 said:
Firstly he's a hypocrite. He's been calling for a general election for months and then the first opportunity he gets he rejects the chance. Either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. And as far as Brexit is concerned he's simply trying to block it rather than come up with alternative options apart from a second referendum. He's more concerned about his own political career than he is about the country. There's a reason why Labour aren't winning general elections. He's a knob and he's damaging Labour as a whole. I refuse to vote Labour while he's in charge.
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you were asked to list your reasons, without repeating the disproved lies that are regularly written or spoken by the right wing media. He did put country first before his political career by refusing an election before no deal was ruled out. You might thank the "knob" for doing that later on
 
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tomw24 said:
Firstly he's a hypocrite. He's been calling for a general election for months and then the first opportunity he gets he rejects the chance. Either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. And as far as Brexit is concerned he's simply trying to block it rather than come up with alternative options apart from a second referendum. He's more concerned about his own political career than he is about the country. There's a reason why Labour aren't winning general elections. He's a knob and he's damaging Labour as a whole. I refuse to vote Labour while he's in charge.
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I'm not a Corbyn fan and want a general election but it was the right call to block it until after the extension is passed, especially without a set date for the election as boris proposed as he could simply set it after the leaving date and dissolve parliament until then as is required during an election.
 
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SaintinSerbia said:
you were asked to list your reasons, without repeating the disproved lies that are regularly written or spoken by the right wing media. He did put country first before his political career by refusing an election before no deal was ruled out. You might thank the "knob" for doing that later on
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Perhaps we should all acknowledge the "knob." Without it we would not be here.
 
tomw24 said:
Firstly he's a hypocrite. He's been calling for a general election for months and then the first opportunity he gets he rejects the chance. Either put your money where your mouth is or shut up. And as far as Brexit is concerned he's simply trying to block it rather than come up with alternative options apart from a second referendum. He's more concerned about his own political career than he is about the country. There's a reason why Labour aren't winning general elections. He's a knob and he's damaging Labour as a whole. I refuse to vote Labour while he's in charge.
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There was/is a specific reason a general election hasn't been called. It's been widely publicised there's no election before an extension. The Johnson can't be trusted not to have pushed through a no deal brexit. It would have been playing into his hands.
The labour party is insisting on a new referendum. Get that done it's result dealt with and then properly run and supervised campaigns for the GE in 2020..
I'd like to see a change of leader Keir Stammer my favourite.
 
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StJabbo1 said:
There was/is a specific reason a general election hasn't been called. It's been widely publicised there's no election before an extension. The Johnson can't be trusted not to have pushed through a no deal brexit. It would have been playing into his hands.
The labour party is insisting on a new referendum. Get that done it's result dealt with and then properly run and supervised campaigns for the GE in 2020..
I'd like to see a change of leader Keir Stammer my favourite.
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Not a bad choice. Then when Umana has secured his seat as a Lib Dem, I would love to see him rejoin the Labour party where he rightly belongs.
 
The Ides of March said:
If Johnson's deal is rejected then the blame lies fairly and squarely with the DUP!! Hope the Express recognises what a treacherous person Arlene is and put her to the metaphoriccal sword. But they Will balme the Lib Dems, Labour, SNP, PC, the Greens and the 21 ex Tories for the sabotage. Anyone but the real culprits who are the DUP and the ERG Conservatives.
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The blame lies with the arrogant Cameron, and his incompetent government for getting us in this situation. Then with May for paying the DUP off so she could cling to `power`. Arlene is milking it for all she`s worth for her party and NI - she`s getting away with it because of the Tories.
 
AberdeenSaint said:
The blame lies with the arrogant Cameron, and his incompetent government for getting us in this situation. Then with May for paying the DUP off so she could cling to `power`. Arlene is milking it for all she`s worth for her party and NI - she`s getting away with it because of the Tories.
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Don't disagree at all. What is galling is when the blame is put on Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, PC, the Greens, and a few Tories.
 
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