This is scary and probably a reaction to Johnson’s rhetoric.
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This is scary and probably a reaction to Johnson’s rhetoric.
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The deal that's been voted down by Parliament 3 times already? Boris can sign what he likes, but it's not up to him.This is horrific. If Brexit is delayed, god knows what horrors will unfold. There appears to be a nasty undercurrent of considerable thugs out there who are ready to take the law into their own hands if things do not pan out the way they want.
To resolve this, Johnson needs to get off his high horse and sign the deal negotiated by Mrs May, flaws and all.
This is horrific. If Brexit is delayed, god knows what horrors will unfold. There appears to be a nasty undercurrent of considerable thugs out there who are ready to take the law into their own hands if things do not pan out the way they want.
To resolve this, Johnson needs to get off his high horse and sign the deal negotiated by Mrs May, flaws and all.
And let the terrorists have their way? Sets a dangerous precedent.
The deal that's been voted down by Parliament 3 times already? Boris can sign what he likes, but it's not up to him.
Have we really come to a point where the least worst option is the only way to go, when, in theory there is still the option of rescinding Art 50?[/QUOTE]
You think Johnson will do that? Perhaps he will and will never set foot on British soil again. There´s not a chance of May´s deal passing unless it is somehow cleverly reworded, protects the GFA and is somehow passed by Parliament because Corbyn and his cohorts abstain.
"To resolve this, Johnson needs to get off his high horse and sign the deal negotiated by Mrs May, flaws and all."
You were the one who mentioned it as the solution Ides.
I think there is more chance of a VONC, general election, another referendum with remain being an option and the remain vote winning.
If future governments want to try Brexit, perhaps they'll have more success by starting out with a plan.
I absolutely believe that, yes. However violent and however extreme pro-brexit behaviour gets, it won't get what it wants as long as the rest of the population and establishment don't accept it as normalI would like to endorse your cool rationale but do you think that is likely at the moment with the vicious right-wing empowered by a neo psychopathic Prime Minister?
I absolutely believe that, yes. However violent and however extreme pro-brexit behaviour gets, it won't get what it wants as long as the rest of the population and establishment don't accept it as normal
The actual mob is not made up of large numbers. They might make a lot of noise and may appear to have lots of support however that support will amount to nothing - a bit like Farage's infamous hike for a few miles with some angry pensioners.I would like to endorse your cool rationale but do you think that is likely at the moment with the vicious right-wing empowered by a neo psychopathic Prime Minister?
If sanity is to be preserved we need to prove ourselves better than Johnson and ride out the storm because sooner or later, arrogance has its comeuppance and he will have his as sure as night follows day.
I will throw out this to you. There are going to be many demonstrations by both Remainers and Leavers in the run up to October 31st. Do you think it would be better for Remainers to keep their powder dry for now, let the leavers burn out their angst and then return to the offensive afterwards? Because at the moment, the High Court, the reaction of normal MPs and sanitised people has just provided the red blood to the frenzied mob and its millions of sympathisers, supporting a Johnson Brexit.
I am feeling genuinely unsettled, sad and disturbed by the way this country is going.
The Tory party has, in my opinion, descended to levels that don’t even register on the moral compass. Every day they set lower and lower standards for decency, for honesty and for never accepting responsibility for their actions, always looking to shift the blame on to others. But here’s the thing.
What is unsettling, saddening and disturbing me, isn’t just the behaviour of the government, but knowing that people I know, people I respect and people I love will continue to support them.
People who I know are decent and honest have effectively sold their souls to the devil and do not give a flying fig that the political party that they CHOOSE to support has become so abhorrent and the No Deal Brexit, some of them are baying for, will cause serious hardship for millions.
I know that my relationship with one of my siblings has become very strained, and is not likely to recover, but I no longer have the same level of respect, for her, that I once had, which is extremely sad.
I can’t help but feel that similar situations are happening throughout the country.
The Tory party has broken the country.
Most people around the world get their impressions of the British from TV programmes. The most popular are Only fools and Horses and Midsommer Murders. My wife watches about 2 re-runs of Midsommer Murders a day. That's what the British are like she says, I've been to Stratford! Decent and rich. You know Midsommer has the highest murder rate in the world says I? Yes but they're not real murders, and you're more like Blackadder!
Time to stockpile, include HP sauce, it's made in the Netherlands.In line with Boris' idea of getting Brexit done to honour Jo Cox might I suggest that to honour war dead ( of which my grandfather was one btw) we erect a statue of Hitler at the cenotaph. On the subject of Brexit riots these may occur after a no deal if the supply of Werthers Originals gets disrupted.