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fatletiss said:
Here is another example of poor information being put to the public. Bio-degradable Plastic is BAD, worse than normal plastic. It breaks down into micro particles and then doesn’t go anywhere.

It is incredible how everyday I hear people talking about Bio-degradable plastic when they don’t know that it’s bad. Not there fault though, it’s the lack of info.
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We have to face the fact micro particles are part of our diet. **** a ****ing brick
 
VocalMinority said:
They're just being representative of the general public who don't have any more of a plan as to what to do.

They've handled it badly but they've been dealt an impossible hand. Not voting isn't going to make it any easier for them to understand the views of the public and come up with a solution.
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This is all of their doing, not the public's fault at all. From the very beginning, to the more recently shocking decisions. But don't worry, the one's who have added to the chaos will be long gone soon, with massive pay offs, and books about 'how they told us so' in the pipeline.
I'm looking forward to the results of tomorrows vote, should make some rather uncomfortable reading for a few people.
 
----HistoryRepeating---- said:
This is all of their doing, not the public's fault at all. From the very beginning, to the more recently shocking decisions. But don't worry, the one's who have added to the chaos will be long gone soon, with massive pay offs, and books about 'how they told us so' in the pipeline.
I'm looking forward to the results of tomorrows vote, should make some rather uncomfortable reading for a few people.
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This isn't true. And this line of thinking and everyone trying to absolve themselves of blame is why we are in this mess.

If you just kick out the current politicians without fixing anything it will just be a case of history repeating :emoticon-0110-tongu
 
TheSecondStain said:
More proof that our beloved incumbant government heaped totally unnecessary austerity onto UK citizens:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48354692

This is what I mean by 'long memory'. Never let these people back in. If another government trips up over hard times, never let Tories or right-wing parties back in with their promises of tax cuts. It's a total illusion. Findings like this should convince even the dullest individual that right-wing government is only catering to a small section of society, which gets smaller and smaller as hardship grows, leaving a great swathe to exist on the smallest of welfare help. And there are groups who are quite ready to make this even smaller as an 'incentive' to get out of poverty. The reality is that the present path this PM seems hell bent on sending us down, because for one brief moment in time a tiny majority of the voting public wanted it, will hasten the removal of jobs anyway.
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While I understand your point, the implication that people voted Tory because of hard times blaming the previous government are way off the mark. Labour's support was slipping substantially well before the financial crash. Labour lost 58 seats in 2005 and were polling very badly by 2007. By the time the financial crash happened and the recession after they were already not going to win the next GE.
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
The plastic bag tax is one tax that has really worked. It is second nature for me now to have a few 'bags for life' in the car to go shopping. Proof that a small tax of 5p can change the habits of many. I've said it before, but my daughter is amazed when she comes back from the US how we take old bags to go shopping with - complete opposite of when we are there and go shopping, normally have 10 or 11 plastic bags each shop - what a waste.

Another thing I do, is you know those plastic charity bags that i seem to get 4 or 5 every week? I use them as bin liners if I have nothing to go to charity - not as a saving of a few pennies (I am not tight honest) , but saves me buying a single use plastic bin liner, reduces demand and hopefully production. I also saw an investigation that the stuff in those bags goes towards paying the drivers the shops etc, not actually to charity - if you have old clothes etc to give to charity, take it there yourself. Walk there if you want to save on your carbon footprint.

Every little helps.



EDIT: A quick google and a couple of links about charity bags:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rity-bag-Millions-duped-donating-clothes.html
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/aug/31/charity-bags-doorsteps-sold-abroad
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Me being a far rightie alt-right and obvious climate denier does the same. The "charidee bags" which come through my door almost daily are used as bin liners, and I always have a bag in my pocket to use if I go shopping. If we do a planned shop then we take more. Being honest I have always taken "my own*" bags to the shops because the ones they were giving out were crap.

*of course they aren't really my own because they came from other shops but I mean the ones that are a better quality than the flimsy ones the supermarket were giving out towards the end of the "free bag" era.

On your last point I don't leave any bags out for charity. I put my charity things in the charity bins at the fire station. Clothes, Shoes, Toys. Unless it is designer and then I stick it on ebay for someone else to use.
 
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Beddytare said:
Ah now you are talking a different line. I agree there perhaps should be a change when asking for a referendum like other countries do. Must be past by at least so many %. As for compulsory voting that too may be a way forward although Im not so sure myself on that but could be persuaded.
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Mandatory voting seems to work very well. Australia shows it does ;)
 
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fatletiss said:
Here is another example of poor information being put to the public. Bio-degradable Plastic is BAD, worse than normal plastic. It breaks down into micro particles and then doesn’t go anywhere.

It is incredible how everyday I hear people talking about Bio-degradable plastic when they don’t know that it’s bad. Not there fault though, it’s the lack of info.
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There's plenty of info on bio-degradable plastic courtesy of Chris Packham constantly being on the telly talking about it.......after cashing in his paid advisor to the industry cheques.
 
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