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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    She herself could get dual nationality - Spanish and Catalan (if it ever gets independence, but that is not likely on Rajoy's watch)
     
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  2. Beddy

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    Errr............. The French too have been criticised for not acting quickly enough............I should also remind you the path of Irma changed several times.......Although granted I would have have liked the uk to have acted a bit quicker. A lot of our troops were actually on leave as this is the height of the leave period in the forces. I know of at least three lads that were called back. It all takes time................
     
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  3. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    Just send that useless lump of a Foreign Secretary and keep him there. He could be joined by Liam Fox, Royston Smith, Michael Gove and David Davis, and for good measure Dennis Skinner and Kate Hoey!! All unbelievably bad politicians who should be dropped out of an aeroplane over the Atlantic minus a parachute.
     
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  4. Beddy

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    Oh dear.....I get the impression they are not your favourite people.......<laugh>
     
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  5. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone like those that I have listed? Actually it is not so much their personalities, because they are all affable, Royston Smith apart. It is more to do with their policy they advocate
     
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    As an ardent supporter of the NHS I have been somewhat disappointed at the poor organisation, of my wife's treatment, this week.
    She was due to have chemotherapy last week, Monday 4th, but this was cancelled owing to her blood counts not being good enough to withstand a new treatment.
    No problem with this.

    A new appointment was made for this week, Monday 11th, for chemotherapy followed by a blood transfusion.

    We arrived early for a 9.30 appointment, to be told
     
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  7. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    A piece of radio nostalgia for those of us who admired Barbara Castle.

    Barbara Betts, the daughter of a tax inspector, was born in Bradford in 1910. Her childhood was steeped in left-wing politics. Her father was an active member of the Independent Labour Party and she became a socialist at an early age. She was educated at Bradford Girls' Grammar School and Oxford University. Her father had been a William Morris-esque Guild Socialist; her mother used to set up a maypole on their patch of Pontefract cinder track. In the 1950s, she watched in horror as her vision of an English working-class improving itself through education being washed away as a slew of jukeboxes, Hollywood movies, quiz shows, T-shirts and chewing gum tumbled over the Atlantic. English culture was being subsumed by the American Vulgar. Some of the fiercest resistance came from the left - JB Priestley and Richard Hoggart and Barbara Castle.

    listen here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b094d52j#play
     
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  8. VocalMinority

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    The fact it takes time is all the more reason to start earlier.

    Better to overprepare and only have to deal with minor damage than to underprepare, especially to the degree we did.
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    Half my message disappeared?

    Anyway, we arrived as said, to be told that the transfusion was cancelled and the chemotherapy fluids wouldn't be ready for another 2 hours!

    We have arrived today for the blood, 09.00, blood not ready and still sitting here at 10.20, waiting to get started on a process that will last about 4 hours.
    Probably human error but so disappointed that my wife is being treated like this.
     
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  10. Beddy

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    The lads I know where all called back 3 days before Irma hit...........Also I forgot to mention a lass who was called back. She was in fact on her hols in Ibiza I gather. Apparently she only arrived the day before and got up the next morning to a message telling her to contact the MOD. It took her two days to return..........I know where she has gone although I don't know where the lads have gone. So it does take time.........
     
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  11. VocalMinority

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    And if it takes time then thats even more reason to prepare so you can start earlier.

    How long it takes to respond doesn't changes the governments obligations. It simply means they have to take steps to reduce that response time.

    For example, off the top of my head, having annual excerises on the carribean during hurricane season rather than the med so your not redirecting troops from the other side of the ocean.

    But realstically, simply having a few hundred in the uk on standby ready to respond to various issues like this would have surficed. (I'm surprised if we didn't)
     
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  12. ImpSaint

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    They seem fine to me :) Can;t comment on Royston Smith though. You lot know him, no-one other than those in the Wessex central area does I suspect. Not exactly on a career path to the top is he?

    I get your gripe though. Anyone pro-Brexit = bad. Anna Soubry for PM etc...

    You are free to base your opinion on single issues though ;)
     
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  13. Beddy

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    In truth I am talking from experience.............What you have to think about is that we have other commitments as well. We used to have a force in the air 24/7 but there is no longer a need for that. I too would have liked them to have responded earlier but I do understand how difficult it is to do that these days as well keep to our home defence. Not excluding our own problems that have occurred in the north of the UK.
     
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  14. ImpSaint

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    I keep getting letters giving my ASD son appointments all over the county and further. Skegness, Louth, Grantham, even one in Nottingham always in school time. I have to keep reminding them we live in Lincoln and is at school and they then give us a Lincoln appointment after school finishes. These aren't treatment appointments. They are 5 minute assessments of how his ADHD medicine is working. No idea why they keep on allocating us appointments miles away when quite obviously these are non urgent 5 minute tickbox type appointments (Is it working well? School says yes. OK signed off for another 6 months) that they immediately find time for at Lincoln hospital which is a 10 minute walk from my house.

    They seem to want to fill out the hours of "community" pediatricians elsewhere rather than just send us to the local ones that obviously have appointments available.
     
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  15. Whiteley Saint

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    Sorry to hear that St B. I hope she gets it sorted out soon.

    Unfortunately this is no surprise to me as I have had relatives who have had all sorts of problems with the NHS over the years. I still think it's a great thing to have but it needs a major shake up in my opinion. The treatment can be very hit and miss. This has been the case for many years from what I've seen so it's not something you can blame on one political party. The NHS has become bigger and bigger with bits just added on without any proper thought of how it all joins together to give the best treatment to patients. It's a political hot potato so no one wants to sort it out, it just gets more money thrown at it. I'm sure the money is welcome but that won't sort out the organisation and management of the various departments.
     
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  16. greensaint

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    I'd agree treatment can be very hit or miss. I'd say the biggest contribution to this is the increasing fractured nature of the NHS, when you have one bit charging another bit money to supply a service people tend to get lost in the mix. You are spot on about no one party being responsible, all three parties have had opportunities to improve it in the last dozen years, and haven't. Each 're-organisation' has resulted in increased management costs and ineffective 'tendering' processes. A lot of money has been wasted.
     
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  17. VocalMinority

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    I had got that from how you are talking with a resigned tone about how things are done instead of how things should be done.

    I think recent events have shown there is most certainly a need for it. The question shouldn't be if there is a need but how best to fill it.
     
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  18. Velcro Roy

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    Good post Beddy,each evening I wonder who the BBC (and sometimes others)seem to be preaching to with their distasteful slant on Britain at every opportunity.
     
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  19. tiggermaster

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    The BBC report there are people in the Caibbean complaining Britain's response is to slow... factual reporting ... The BBC also shows clips of large planes being loaded with aid and troops heading towards the Caribbean and reports on those who are/were already in the region. Seems to me the slant is in your head.. you hear/see what you want he to hear and see.. perhaps we all do. But a little objectivity is worth a lot...
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

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    This Government have previous on being slow to react to a disaster, Grenfell Towers anyone?
     
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