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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. One of yer Norvern Saints

    One of yer Norvern Saints Well-Known Member

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    Course, if you really want to stir it up, then we get the government we deserve ... debate
     
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  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I may have mentioned this before, but worth saying it again if I have. A chap in my group when I mentioned something similar to your point above told me this, “If someone wants to vote for a politician because he likes his suit, that’s their right and I’m ok with that.”

    It is of course a correct statement, but it backed up my message which was similar to this post.

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  3. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    All said in peace :emoticon-0148-yes:

    I’m not sure how often you’re on this thread No1 but are you aware of the honourable banned members contribution to it?

    I’d say his main contribution is that he wants it banned because it is a hotbed of ill informed socialist propaganda peddled by indoctrinated fools ...

    ... With a light sprinkling of occasional personal abuse, which to be fair is sometimes two sided

    I’m no fan of a ban of any sort but I visit this thread to hear political opinions and not to hear someone constantly whingeing about everyone having the same opinion, if I thought real political arguments were being shut down I’d be complaining. And yes it is a bit of an echo chamber but that’s what happens on forums and if I want to hear another side then I can buy the Mail Express Times Telegraph etc
     
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  4. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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  5. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    I would counter that by saying that we get the government that the media wants.
    That is where the battle is won and lost and it was Murdoch switching allegiance to Blair, taking the Sun and News of the World readers with him, that gave Labour so many years in control.
    It was him switching back to the Tories that changed things again.
    What I would really like to see is a list of benefits that working class people gain from a Tory government, because I genuinely don’t understand why working class people vote for them.
    I think it would be as long as the list of benefits we will see from Brexit.
     
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  6. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    I can’t remember how long ago it was, (1year or more) but I posted it on here at the time.
    Local councils were being given cash to help fund areas where they were struggling to meet their responsibilities, at a set rate of interest, but if they wanted to borrow money for building social housing the interest rate was considerably higher, which acted as a deterrent as the higher interest payments would reduce the money needed to pay for everyday projects.
    Cameron/Osborne were quoted as saying that “council houses breed Labour voters”, something I think the Tories have always known, hence the selling off and non replacement of social housing.
    But this is just the writings of an indoctrinated fool. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  7. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    The weakest link in a democracy is it's citizens. Attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt
     
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  8. tiggermaster

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    Certainly true in the U S A right now. The true test of democracy is the transition of power without protest or violence. It seems something in the region of 33 to 40 % of the electorate including many elected republicans are prepared to countenance resisting democractic principles presently.
     
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  9. Archers Road

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    I was expecting worse tbh, from some of Trump's more deluded and vociferous supporters. They haven't taken to the streets in big numbers, have they?

    It looks as though the US Constitution, and Federal and State institutions, have stood the test against what in effect has been an attempted coup. Of course for a coup to be effective, it helps if the insurrectionists have military support, and didn't the Chief of staff move quickly to kybosh that?
     
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  10. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Just completed a YouGov chat about the Brexit deal, amongst other things.
    There is very little confidence, in those questioned, that it will be a good deal for the country.
    A further chat was about legalising marijuana. I have never been a user but would love it to be more easily available, or at least the oils extracted from it, to aid people with severe health conditions.
     
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  11. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Putting this on here, mainly for the poster on the right about UK citizens not being entitled to any support abroad, even if they are kidnapped and tortured. WTF!
    The left poster is basically a lie, when you recall we were sanctioned by the UN.

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  12. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    ???
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    Oh go on.

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  14. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    not sure what happened there . Anyway , it’s a shame he is banned , but there you go . Stay safe :)
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    He’s not banned from the forum, just from the Politics thread.
     
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  16. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    The Green Party of England and Wales has managed to elect, as their co-chairs, a trans woman and a TERF. So if you get bored of the other absolute trainwrecks in politics at the moment, that ought to be fun.

     
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  17. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Shame on this government.

     
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  18. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    well if they don’t have the staff , but they should bloody well put us all in lockdown .

    FFS Boris grow a pair .
     
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  19. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Just how many £billions has Boris squandered to no effect or given to his mates?
     
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  20. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    This government has always been about making headline catching gestures, with little substance to support the gesture being made. As shallow as a worm’s grave.
    When the Nightingale Hospitals were being built questions were asked about how they would be staffed, when we don’t have enough staff for our everyday hospitals.
    Maybe, instead of pulling them down they could use them to house homeless people during the cold months.
     
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