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Is it also though that fuel (rather then electricity) WAS cheaper? I don't know, I am genuinely putting it out there as I am only young :)

Also, isn't it weird that we say fuel is expensive (it is) but we are willing to pay £1.50 for 1 litre of water from the supermarket, but not £1.25 for a litre of petrol?
Petrol was relatively expensive, but only because they didn't have economies of scale. Electricity also suffered the same problems. But electricity is agnostic of source. It doesn't care how it is made. Either by wind source, hydro, coal, you name it. Ultimately, the fossil fuel industries saw an opportunity to close down electricification of transport, and did it. It's well documented. But I'm not going to find links that people can't be bothered to read.

I NEVER buy bottled water. :rolleyes: It's a ****ing insult to the environment on so many levels, so no.. Find a bottle. Fill it from the tap. Done. And you're not that young :p
 
Who here has bothered to look into changing their bank from one which invests in fossil fuels to one which invests in green energy? Most of the biggies invest in fossil fuels. You can help change that investment posture by moving your account. It's little things that can make a difference.
 
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doesn't bug me, i don't make stuff up

no? You just talk a lot of crap. My not including you into some of my statements has obviously bugged you. If you are insinuating I have made something up I suggest you either prove it or you choose and another subject and certainly avoid me.
 
Just as a matter of interest......when I was 14 or so I had a Saturday job going around delivering lemonade. We used an electric vehicle to do that it took about 3.5 ton in weight. Other than milk floats I could never understand why they didn't catch on more from then. Mainly I suppose because we didn't have the technology for greater distances with battery power


In the summer of 1976 I got a job as a milkman with the Unigate depot at Park Gate. The milk floats were daft heavy and powered by banks of lead acid batteries, that were put on charge overnight after we finished work. My round was a bit of Stubbington and Rowner so a fair old way, but I got one of the newer milk floats with new batteries, so it just about made it back. Top speed was awful but the instant stop-go was perfect for delivering door to door.

I actually enjoyed the job and it was a hot and sunny summer that seemed to last forever.

The job came to an end when I hit a diesel spill at the end of Coach Hill in Titchfield on my way out one morning. The milk float slid sideways and hit the kerb, dumping 250 glass bottles of milk into the main Titchfield though road. No inquest, no months notice, sacked on the spot. The next day it started raining, and that was the end of my Summer of 76.

I still have fond memories of that old milk float. It always did what was asked of it.
 
Who here has bothered to look into changing their bank from one which invests in fossil fuels to one which invests in green energy? Most of the biggies invest in fossil fuels. You can help change that investment posture by moving your account. It's little things that can make a difference.

I’m with Smile. Think they are pretty ethical.
 
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Just as a matter of interest......when I was 14 or so I had a Saturday job going around delivering lemonade. We used an electric vehicle to do that it took about 3.5 ton in weight. Other than milk floats I could never understand why they didn't catch on more from then. Mainly I suppose because we didn't have the technology for greater distances with battery power


I remember we had an electric postal truck at a Royal Mail depot in suburban North London at one time. To my knowledge the only time it ever got rolled out of the depot was for fetes, shows and the like. It got packed off to Central London once for some sort of jamboree, and ran out of juice on the way back.
 
The chief Rabbi has attacked Labour. Can anyon explain this issue for me as I keep looking it up and can find no evidence of anyone important in Labour saying anything anti-semitic? I know Labour initially didn't include the idea an attack on Israel was antisemitic in their guidelines, but they did in the end. Personally, I can't help feeling the Israelis are scared of Corbyn's pro Palestinian outlook?

(And isn't it time everyone gave up all this absurd religion nonsense?)
 
In the summer of 1976 I got a job as a milkman with the Unigate depot at Park Gate. The milk floats were daft heavy and powered by banks of lead acid batteries, that were put on charge overnight after we finished work. My round was a bit of Stubbington and Rowner so a fair old way, but I got one of the newer milk floats with new batteries, so it just about made it back. Top speed was awful but the instant stop-go was perfect for delivering door to door.

I actually enjoyed the job and it was a hot and sunny summer that seemed to last forever.

The job came to an end when I hit a diesel spill at the end of Coach Hill in Titchfield on my way out one morning. The milk float slid sideways and hit the kerb, dumping 250 glass bottles of milk into the main Titchfield though road. No inquest, no months notice, sacked on the spot. The next day it started raining, and that was the end of my Summer of 76.

I still have fond memories of that old milk float. It always did what was asked of it.

So every time you are a milkman, we win the FA Cup.


You know what you need to do.....;)
 
The chief Rabbi has attacked Labour. Can anyon explain this issue for me as I keep looking it up and can find no evidence of anyone important in Labour saying anything anti-semitic? I know Labour initially didn't include the idea an attack on Israel was antisemitic in their guidelines, but they did in the end. Personally, I can't help feeling the Israelis are scared of Corbyn's pro Palestinian outlook?

(And isn't it time everyone gave up all this absurd religion nonsense?)


I don't want to step onto a minefield, but I have two observations here;

1) Rabbi Mirvis tweeted effusive congratulations to Boris Johnson the day he was confirmed Tory leader. Make of that what you will.
2) Labour have said they intend to ban arms sales to Israel (and Saudi Arabia, who are Israel's allies in the region).
 
The chief Rabbi has attacked Labour. Can anyon explain this issue for me as I keep looking it up and can find no evidence of anyone important in Labour saying anything anti-semitic? I know Labour initially didn't include the idea an attack on Israel was antisemitic in their guidelines, but they did in the end. Personally, I can't help feeling the Israelis are scared of Corbyn's pro Palestinian outlook?
(And isn't it time everyone gave up all this absurd religion nonsense?)

Into the minefield ...

This is part of the campaign to suppress freedom of expression on Palestine

It is political, not religious

The far-right represents, and has always represented, a far greater threat to the Jewish people
 
We won’t need MPs in the future, if this is correct, as we are on our way to becoming an autocracy.

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