Off Topic Pointless point-scoring thread

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Fabulous Fabio said:
I don't know Dev, my first post just looks like a statement of FACT to me.
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On a "Pointless Point Scoring thread" <laugh>

The remarks made about The Rangers latest attempt to bleed more blood out of some stones was made before kick off, long before kick off. We were indulging in some utterly "Pointless Point Scoring" as the OP suggests. That is the purpose of this thread "Pointless Point Scoring".

You made your post about Celtic during the match when Celtic were one down, and as you have stated you were aware of the score.

Point Scorring remarks made by Tims were countered by you by a bit of point scoring, that's Tit for Tat.

In my defence, I don't do it myself, but then I am one pedantic ****, so it balances itself out.
 
"Rangers manager Ally McCoist reckons Hearts head coach Robbie Neilson is playing mind games by revealing he has been training with 10 men against 11 ahead of his side's trip to Ibrox on Sunday, as the Tynecastle outfit have had three players sent off in their last six visits to the ground. "



From the BBCs site <laugh>
 
rogueleader said:
"Rangers manager Ally McCoist reckons Hearts head coach Robbie Neilson is playing mind games by revealing he has been training with 10 men against 11 ahead of his side's trip to Ibrox on Sunday, as the Tynecastle outfit have had three players sent off in their last six visits to the ground. "



From the BBCs site
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18 players sent off?
 
DevAdvocate said:
18 players sent off?
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There was a game against Hearts in the 90's when they either had three or four sent off. They were one player off the match being abandoned. It became a complete farce I remember we were about 3 nil up and then just kept passing it about making no attempt to score.
 
Moses said:
There was a game against Hearts in the 90's when they either had three or four sent off. They were one player off the match being abandoned. It became a complete farce I remember we were about 3 nil up and then just kept passing it about making no attempt to score.
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If I remember correctly one of the Hearts players got sent off for kicking the goalpost <laugh>

Almost as bad as the time Agathe got sent off for running too fast!
 
Tina's Prolapsed Anus said:
If I remember correctly one of the Hearts players got sent off for kicking the goalpost <laugh>

Almost as bad as the time Agathe got sent off for running too fast!
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That's right I'm pretty certain that Gough was having a go at the ref about it at the time. Just googled it Davie Weir was one of the Hearts guys sent off<laugh>

[video=youtube;K7SYjjlDT50]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7SYjjlDT50[/video]
 
I always rated Henning Berg as a player. His spell at Ibrox came far too late in his career and it would have been great to have more of his class on show for longer. Berg&#8217;s popularity among Rangers supporters &#8211; and his managerial reputation &#8211; will have been greatly enhanced by his Legia Warsaw side&#8217;s two-legged demolition of Celtic in the CL qualifiers. The dumping out of the Champions League at this stage is undoubtedly a major blow for Celtic. The club&#8217;s strategy has been to use the absence of Rangers to rack up CL monies, coupled with their precarious buy low-sell high policy on players.

Both elements of this strategy have failed spectacularly. The players Celtic have signed in recent times have proven to be flops and the club must now move forward without the injection of CL riches it has been relying upon. Those riches do not appear to have done much to take Celtic to the next level. Year on year since Rangers went to the bottom tier, Celtic&#8217;s playing pool has gotten visibly weaker. The CL monies have tumbled in, along with transfer fees for players like Ki and Wanyama. But there is no discernible trace of financial superiority evident in the Celtic squad.

&#8220;So where is the money?&#8221; is the question now being asked by Celtic fans. If Celtic are so strong financially, as we are constantly being told by Peter Lawwell soundbites and a compliant media, where is the evidence? The club&#8217;s massive bank loan (<laugh> £34m hidden debt Timmy)would suggest that any liquidity obtained by revenue is still subject to the long shadow of this bank debt. In other words, Celtic may have had some good years due to the absence of credible competition but they are still encumbered with a huge debt mountain.

Whether or not Celtic use the inflated revenues of the past couple of seasons to put a dent in this debt, or, as seems more to be the case, just use the money to service running costs, the fact is that Celtic are, at the end of a period of false dominance, no better off than they were three years ago. They are actually in a much poorer condition, if truth be told. During the past three years, the club has diminished greatly in terms of quality in the playing pool and the drain of supporters is arguably the real story of the so-called Rangers crisis.

Rangers may have had to work their way back to the heights of the game but it is Celtic who have lost thousands of fans in the process &#8211; fans who may never get back into the habit of following their team. (Irony Alert) The real crisis for Celtic is that they just cannot get bums on seats, other than for Champions League games or Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremonies. There won&#8217;t be many of either at Celtic Park in the near future, for sure.
The loss of hardcore consumers signifies one thing in marketing and that is that you are failing to give those consumers the product they want.
Celtic directors might be asking and should be asking: What is that product?

I can tell them and I won&#8217;t charge them an exorbitant fee.
The Product is Celtic competing with Rangers for the title.

I know Big Peter claimed otherwise but those statements, backed up by former manager Neil Lennon, only prove they don&#8217;t do much market research over at Parkhead.

Celtic fans want The Product and nothing else will suffice.

Which only goes to prove one thing any bluenose will tell you&#8230;

It really is all about The Rangers. (Irony Overload)
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Oh dear Bill
 
I always rated Henning Berg as a player. His spell at Ibrox came far too late in his career and it would have been great to have more of his class on show for longer. Berg&#8217;s popularity among Rangers supporters &#8211; and his managerial reputation &#8211; will have been greatly enhanced by his Legia Warsaw side&#8217;s two-legged demolition of Celtic in the CL qualifiers. The dumping out of the Champions League at this stage is undoubtedly a major blow for Celtic. The club&#8217;s strategy has been to use the absence of Rangers to rack up CL monies, coupled with their precarious buy low-sell high policy on players.

Both elements of this strategy have failed spectacularly. The players Celtic have signed in recent times have proven to be flops and the club must now move forward without the injection of CL riches it has been relying upon. Those riches do not appear to have done much to take Celtic to the next level. Year on year since Rangers went to the bottom tier, Celtic&#8217;s playing pool has gotten visibly weaker. The CL monies have tumbled in, along with transfer fees for players like Ki and Wanyama. But there is no discernible trace of financial superiority evident in the Celtic squad.

&#8220;So where is the money?&#8221; is the question now being asked by Celtic fans. If Celtic are so strong financially, as we are constantly being told by Peter Lawwell soundbites and a compliant media, where is the evidence? The club&#8217;s massive bank loan would suggest that any liquidity obtained by revenue is still subject to the long shadow of this bank debt. In other words, Celtic may have had some good years due to the absence of credible competition but they are still encumbered with a huge debt mountain.

Whether or not Celtic use the inflated revenues of the past couple of seasons to put a dent in this debt, or, as seems more to be the case, just use the money to service running costs, the fact is that Celtic are, at the end of a period of false dominance, no better off than they were three years ago. They are actually in a much poorer condition, if truth be told. During the past three years, the club has diminished greatly in terms of quality in the playing pool and the drain of supporters is arguably the real story of the so-called Rangers crisis.

Rangers may have had to work their way back to the heights of the game but it is Celtic who have lost thousands of fans in the process &#8211; fans who may never get back into the habit of following their team. The real crisis for Celtic is that they just cannot get bums on seats, other than for Champions League games or Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremonies. There won&#8217;t be many of either at Celtic Park in the near future, for sure.
The loss of hardcore consumers signifies one thing in marketing and that is that you are failing to give those consumers the product they want.
Celtic directors might be asking and should be asking: What is that product?

I can tell them and I won&#8217;t charge them an exorbitant fee.
The Product is Celtic competing with Rangers for the title.

I know Big Peter claimed otherwise but those statements, backed up by former manager Neil Lennon, only prove they don&#8217;t do much market research over at Parkhead.

Celtic fans want The Product and nothing else will suffice.

Which only goes to prove one thing any bluenose will tell you&#8230;

It really is all about The Rangers.
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For the love of ****, how can this ***** tie his shoelaces in the morning? <laugh>
 
Was it not Neil Pointing that got sent off for kicking the post , Hearts had 4 suspended for the cup tie the following midweek against us , the sfa allowed them to bring players in on loan and beat us 1-0
 
Beeling much Bill?


[h=1]A Serious Injustice[/h]August 8, 2014 / billmcmurdo
Rangers fans should be able to take heart by the swift action shown by UEFA in righting the &#8220;injustice&#8221; Celtic received by playing against an ineligible player for two minutes after 178 minutes of playing eligible players who pumped them good and proper. After all, if the governing bodies are so keen to right wrongs suffered by teams, then we should expect a massive righting of the mountain of wrongs experienced by The Rangers FC over the past few years, including punishments and judgements that later proved to be unfounded. To say nothing of lies and fabrications in the media.

Speaking of governing bodies, I see that the SFA have appointed a new compliance officer to replace Vincent Lunny, whose departure is shrouded in some mystery. My understanding is that Lunny&#8217;s removal was a bit sudden and seems to be indicative of turmoil over at Hampden. Of course, Compliance Officer at the SFA has a different meaning perhaps than it would elsewhere. In the opinion of many fans, it is all about who and what should be complied with, rather than complying to any rule book.

A wee birdie tells me that SFA supremo Stewart Regan is actively looking for an exit from his well-paid job. I am led to believe that one or two in the hallowed halls of power have squeaky bums and are dreading the release of info which could make their tenure very uncomfortable. Genuine fans of the beautiful game here in Scotland will welcome anything that restores some integrity and probity to our governing bodies, whose behaviour has tarnished the image of Scottish football due to general incompetence and indulging in witch hunts against Scotland&#8217;s biggest team.

Celtic&#8217;s reinstatement to the Champions League is proof that sporting integrity is as laughable a phrase when applied to football governance in Europe as it is here in Scotland. Legia Warsaw&#8217;s breach of the rules, which was clearly an error, could have and should have been adequately legislated for with a fine. Instead, we have a team that didn&#8217;t qualify take the place of one which did. I can see the point if the ineligible player had scored both goals the other night but the fact is, he was thrown on at the end of a tie which Celtic had been humiliated in long before his appearance.

Celtic&#8217;s place in the CL qualifiers comes by winning titles in which they have no credible opposition. And this comes from Rangers being banished to the bottom tier of Scottish football. It is only in the corrupt environment of European football that a team which doesn&#8217;t qualify by beating serious opposition is invited to a place at the Champions table. After, of course, its main rival is subject to a witch hunt of unprecedented proportions that ensures this loaded path to the Champions League.

Yet now those tasked with running football have gone one further &#8211; by making getting a serious doing over two legs no impediment to progress in the competition. Many Celtic fans will take the ridiculous UEFA ruling, even though the more fair-minded supporters will realise it is very harsh on the team that played Celtic off the park over two legs. Those fans who crow about UEFA giving their team a reprieve will never know the joy that supporters of other teams know by seeing those teams do something they know little of.

That is, qualifying on the field of play.
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Woooft <laugh>
 
a witch hunt of unprecedented proportions
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<laugh> <laugh>

Forget McCarthyism, forget the Holocaust, Ethnic cleansing in Cambodia or the actual Witch Hunts themselves. Rangers getting pumped out of the ****ty SPL was "unprecedented proportions"

Can I have some embellishment with that hyperbole please?
 
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