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Lawrence Jacoby said:
Agree Brentford have earned the right to compete in this league and are now looking at new stadium are they not?

We have no divine right to exist
We do have the equal desire to compete and it’s not where the fan base wants or expects us to be ... to them I say accept that and move on. No point some fans moaning about stuff each season and talking about hard earned cash etc . Don’t spend it you will be replaced by new fans ... fact of life and i believe the club must mean something to attract new followers and fans ... the market of West London is massive no many understand this st all. A few years back we were hated for having money now at least that has died down.

We can rebuild but in the right way
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You say we will attract new fans? Not playing the anti-football we have been served up in the past few seasons and you just have to look at our gates to realise we are going backwards. You are the first to describe posters on here as fickle yet we are the faithful who stomach this dross year in year out.

The club don't help with their pricing, look at yesterday, just over 6,000 giving the game a totally soulless feel. For one game they could have said every seat a fiver and kids free, A 15,000+ crowd would make a hell of a difference and possibly hooked a few new fans. We might even have been inspired to a win which would have made up for the discount in the next round. Short-sighted decisions in every department are slowly killing us despite the better decisions such as the Grenfell game...
 
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Frome-Ranger said:
I think you are wholly wrong to question Ollie's passion, don't portray your opinion as fact you can't possibly prove one way or the other. For me Ollie is no where near as zany in front of the media as he used to be. We won't find anyone with more passion for QPR than him, not saying whether that's good or bad. You can slag his tactics (or lack of) but passion and hunger I think not. Also he has (in my opinion) not acted like a clown in any way since taking charge.
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Like me then you cannot prove one way or another, however, I think he has lost the plot and is deluded. Just look at the results and his record, that says it all.
 
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ELLERS said:
Like me then you cannot prove one way or another, however, I think he has lost the plot and is deluded. Just look at the results and his record, that says it all.
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We are still in the league
I am certain he cares even more about our club. Stats are nothing
I would channel any moans towards our goal attempts Washington has to hold his hands up there imo
Currently we are unbeaten in the league with Mr and Mrs Smith lets give them a chance I say. Playing better Rangers football will come if we are all calm
 
Lawrence Jacoby said:
We are still in the league
I am certain he cares even more about our club. Stats are nothing
I would channel any moans towards our goal attempts Washington has to hold his hands up there imo
Currently we are unbeaten in the league with Mr and Mrs Smith lets give them a chance I say. Playing better Rangers football will come if we are all calm
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Stats are nothing???? Are you for real?!?!?
 
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bobmid said:
Stats are nothing???? Are you for real?!?!?
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Only one that matters to our club is the final league table surely?

I am very real
Ellers I can wind as much as anyone but I certainly don’t do so with intent. If I get a smack then after thought I smack back

No doubt this is a political overspill and divide but I confident in my approach to the game I love.

I say let’s get a not606 QPR game going maybe? We will let football do the talking ?
 
Lawrence Jacoby said:
Only one that matters to our club is the final league table surely?

I am very real
Ellers I can wind as much as anyone but I certainly don’t do so with intent. If I get a smack then after thought I smack back

No doubt this is a political overspill and divide but I confident in my approach to the game I love.

I say let’s get a not606 QPR game going maybe? We will let football do the talking ?
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I'm up for that game.
My take on the Holloway question is, I didn't want him, but until we can get a better and much better manager, I vote we stick with what we have. I am enjoying watching Rangers more this season, with the effort given, than I have for a few seasons.
 
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No one disputing IH passion or challenges managing under these circumstances. However the point is the apparent lack of a tactical or strategic plan to use the resources we do have. I actually think we've had worse squads than this and certainly I'm encouraged by the flow of young players coming through. Having 6/7 wide players and not playing with width. Equally having 2 lumps up front and not providing them with the service from aforementioned wingers. Young players signed and not played......my expectations this season are lower mid-table and IH may well achieve that despite his lack of tactics rather than because of it - which leads to the reasonable assumption that a smarter coach could do more with this group.
Gary Rowett (& Lee Johnson to a lesser extent) an example. Sacked by Birmingham when they were 7th and have been a basket case under three different managers since then. Derby under achieved for 3 years and now after 12 months of Rowett they are second. Not suggesting that's achievable with our squad but it is clear the coach is critical and with someone with some decent tactical nous I believe this squad can achieve more ESP considering some of our results at home this season. Away tactics a disgrace and a complete mystery
What about Paul Hirst at Shrewsbury - relegation favs and currently splitting two recent PL clubs in L1
Nathan Jones at Luton - only MC have scored more in all 4 divisions
Just feel our managerial appointments all the way back to Sparky have been clueless and have prolonged this situation longer than was necessary.
I remain positive in the squad but seriously doubt the cosy cabal of TF, LF, IH etc can maximize what we have
Happy New Year to all
 
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canadahoop said:
No one disputing IH passion or challenges managing under these circumstances. However the point is the apparent lack of a tactical or strategic plan to use the resources we do have. I actually think we've had worse squads than this and certainly I'm encouraged by the flow of young players coming through. Having 6/7 wide players and not playing with width. Equally having 2 lumps up front and not providing them with the service from aforementioned wingers. Young players signed and not played......my expectations this season are lower mid-table and IH may well achieve that despite his lack of tactics rather than because of it - which leads to the reasonable assumption that a smarter coach could do more with this group.
Gary Rowett (& Lee Johnson to a lesser extent) an example. Sacked by Birmingham when they were 7th and have been a basket case under three different managers since then. Derby under achieved for 3 years and now after 12 months of Rowett they are second. Not suggesting that's achievable with our squad but it is clear the coach is critical and with someone with some decent tactical nous I believe this squad can achieve more ESP considering some of our results at home this season. Away tactics a disgrace and a complete mystery
What about Paul Hirst at Shrewsbury - relegation favs and currently splitting two recent PL clubs in L1
Nathan Jones at Luton - only MC have scored more in all 4 divisions
Just feel our managerial appointments all the way back to Sparky have been clueless and have prolonged this situation longer than was necessary.
I remain positive in the squad but seriously doubt the cosy cabal of TF, LF, IH etc can maximize what we have
Happy New Year to all
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Superb post
 
Lawrence Jacoby said:
Agree Brentford have earned the right to compete in this league and are now looking at new stadium are they not?

We have no divine right to exist
We do have the equal desire to compete and it’s not where the fan base wants or expects us to be ... to them I say accept that and move on. No point some fans moaning about stuff each season and talking about hard earned cash etc . Don’t spend it you will be replaced by new fans ... fact of life and i believe the club must mean something to attract new followers and fans ... the market of West London is massive no many understand this st all. A few years back we were hated for having money now at least that has died down.

We can rebuild but in the right way
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With respect Paul, we are having problems getting our loyal fans who have paid for ST’s already to turn up, let alone getting new fans in.
Every week there are more and more empty seats where I go in the paddock.....all paid up for but the supporters, for some reason or another, not turning up......it’s getting grim I promise you.
 
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ELLERS said:
I am too old to play now. My knee wouldn't take even a 5 a side.
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I only play five a side these days but it would be a good idea. Maybe that goals place

Still play Fridays in the U.K. and better still I still get money for playing which can’t be bad ?. Russell Martin the full back at Norwich sometimes plays now he has good skills that bloke. One player a Reading supporter is a friend of our very old Mackie. Hats off to him as well as he coaches and supports the player’s kids team.

If it happens doubt if it would ( not enough anti depressants) then no ringers or I will bring a few myself

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bobmid said:
Superb post
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Thanks Bob, don't post as much as I should - I do get frustrated when people who question our "tactics" rationally are considered disloyal?? Quite the opposite in fact in my case and judging from your posts, you too.
My frustration is that the strategic approach to our managerial appointments seem equally as inept & thoughtless as the "tactics" on the pitch so maybe we shouldn't be surprised at the outcome - we seem to be in the classic insanity cycle - keep doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome
 
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Staines R's said:
With respect Paul, we are having problems getting our loyal fans who have paid for ST’s already to turn up, let alone getting new fans in.
Every week there are more and more empty seats where I go in the paddock.....all paid up for but the supporters, for some reason or another, not turning up......it’s getting grim I promise you.
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It will Staines old kiddy pretty sure like me you were resentful when all of a sudden we were sold out in our first promotion year

I have watched our hoops with only a few hundred in the past ... there was more at the pre season friendly when I played against the hoops in my county league days.
Little Bradley Allen what a gem lost 6-1
Is he taller than you my fruit?
 
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