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Phinius T Bookbinder

Phinius T Bookbinder

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Pep at Man City commenting on pen miss last night. Mahrez 3rd out of last four and bemoaning how many Man City miss. Think they only score about 6/7 out of 10.
We had Stan Mc back in the day who you would put your house on to score. Others would have a known penalty taker.
Is it a different mindset now or do they just not practice enough?
 
Just for any youngsters out there...

Take the pen with the outside of your foot.

It sends most keepers the wrong way.
 
Phinius T Bookbinder said:
Pep at Man City commenting on pen miss last night. Mahrez 3rd out of last four and bemoaning how many Man City miss. Think they only score about 6/7 out of 10.
We had Stan Mc back in the day who you would put your house on to score. Others would have a known penalty taker.
Is it a different mindset now or do they just not practice enough?
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How did that affect the xG statistics?
 
Phinius T Bookbinder said:
Pep at Man City commenting on pen miss last night. Mahrez 3rd out of last four and bemoaning how many Man City miss. Think they only score about 6/7 out of 10.
We had Stan Mc back in the day who you would put your house on to score. Others would have a known penalty taker.
Is it a different mindset now or do they just not practice enough?
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Because there's to much pissing about by the players taking them these days trying to look cleaver or fancy etc, plus keepers have so much more access to previous pens taken and any patterns that might show them how to guess correctly.

Being a goalkeeper myself, the hardest pens I found to save where ones struck with power/speed. You just didn't have the time to react to them quick enough.

Re saving pens, I always looked at the position of the hips during run up and just as they where about to strike the ball. As it was the clearest indicator of how they would be striking the ball and which direction the ball would go. ( My save ratio on pens was pretty good )
 
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When did a City keeper last save a penalty?

It must be years. Maybe Marshall(?) against Stoke in Jan/Feb 2019?
 
I've absolutely no evidence for this and I've certainly not got the time or inclination to do any research in order to ascertain so called FACTS, but my feeling is that we are probably the worst penalty based team in the world.

We rarely get penalties and we never save penalties.


What's our xP rating Stattos?
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Because there's to much pissing about by the players taking them these days trying to look cleaver or fancy etc, plus keepers have so much more access to previous pens taken and any patterns that might show them how to guess correctly.

Being a goalkeeper myself, the hardest pens I found to save where ones struck with power/speed. You just didn't have the time to react to them quick enough.

Re saving pens, I always looked at the position of the hips during run up and just as they where about to strike the ball. As it was the clearest indicator of how they would be striking the ball and which direction the ball would go. ( My save ratio on pens was pretty good )
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Good reply ta
 
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originallambrettaman said:
In recent years in the Championship, our top penalty scorer was Fryatt with five (from six). Windass, Bowen, Hernadez and Meyler all scored four.

In the Premier League, it was Bullard, with four from five attempts.
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Looks like the problem lies higher up. Maybe as HT2 is right about the faffing around when taking them. Must admit the pens taking by England in the Euro final pissed me off. Saying this Southgate should of seen how they where been taking during training. No surprise the 2 we scored where hit hard and in corners of the goal.
 
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Cityzen said:
You are not the only one.
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XG is a made up stat for TV and betting companies, it's really not taken that seriously within clubs and is way way way down the list on things that performance analysists and coaches look at
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Because there's to much pissing about by the players taking them these days trying to look cleaver or fancy etc, plus keepers have so much more access to previous pens taken and any patterns that might show them how to guess correctly.

Being a goalkeeper myself, the hardest pens I found to save where ones struck with power/speed. You just didn't have the time to react to them quick enough.

Re saving pens, I always looked at the position of the hips during run up and just as they where about to strike the ball. As it was the clearest indicator of how they would be striking the ball and which direction the ball would go. ( My save ratio on pens was pretty good )
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Ta, I’ve always advocated for a straightforward hard wellying of the ball, then it doesn’t really matter if it’s left or right. Feel vindicated now.
 
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Phinius T Bookbinder said:
Looks like the problem lies higher up. Maybe as HT2 is right about the faffing around when taking them. Must admit the pens taking by England in the Euro final pissed me off. Saying this Southgate should of seen how they where been taking during training. No surprise the 2 we scored where hit hard and in corners of the goal.
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Should have studied Stuart Pearce Euros 96. Surprised his boot didn’t follow.
 
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I remember Ron Atkinson saying when he was a TV pundit, during a penalty shoot-out, the goalie should not dive but stay in the middle of his goal. At least one would go straight and he'd save it.
 
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