Our keepers

I love these arguments. Fun times.

 

Ye feel no need to share with certain members. Can't imagine why

 

Then why bother coming here with thinly veiled hints and all the surreptitious nonsense? I can't imagine why it's necessary. Either put up or shut up, in the politest way possible. Don't do all the nod and wink stuff.

 

Because you actually can't share much at all?

 

I don't understand Laura's motivation. If Boruc is a family friend, why go on line to chat about him? Bit weird.

 

I'd love to know what's going on with Boruc. I still think he may be our best keeper so I can't really blame him for being seriously annoyed at the current situation.

 

I thought you were the forum in the know. Didn't think you would need me to share with you DTLW

Re Courtois. He has just come off an excellent la liga season and jose is hard but fair so sure Petr might be able to wrestle his spot back.

 

I can because I'd trust him to fight for his spot, he's had to do it before under Adkins. Unless Koeman has told him there's no way he'll play again barring injury, which would be stupid enough that I'll call it unlikely.

 

I don't think anybody is surprised by his annoyance Puck - that's understandable. There's just ways of moving forward. Some of them good, some of them not so good.

 

Yeah, we should get him if Boruc goes.

 

Are you saying that Koeman is not fair, and that Artur isn't being afforded that opportunity? I mean, let's stop with the riddles eh? Or are you speculating that might be the case?

 

Issue is a man-management one.

Do you say its good alienating a good player as shows you have guts to do what you think is right and what you want or a slight misjudgment totally pissing the player off

 

I don't blame him for being annoyed either. He's a professional footballer and someone has told him they think another player in his position is better. I'd be annoyed. It is how you react next.

 

Upgrading players happens in football (and that's not an invitation to discuss who actually is better, because in the eyes of a club it's an upgrade). The only reason I can think of that I'd completely understand Artur for being so annoyed is if he's been told straight up that he's got no chance of winning his spot back.

 

But Laura - the reaction of the player to what they've been told is, and should be, owned by them. The comment regarding Cech was to highlight how, on the face of it, two players in similar situations have reacted in dissimilar ways.

 

You have hit nail on head

 

If you're a 34 year old who wants an international place then sitting on the bench is not a good way of moving forward. Trying to win back his place isn't really an option because unless Forster proves completely incompetent (unlikely) that's almost certainly not going to happen. Clubs simply don't chop and change their goalkeeper (unless all their keepers are crap). Boruc has been perhaps our most important signing since we got into the Premier League and he's been unceremoniously dumped out of the team this summer. I wouldn't be feeling too loyal or co-operative if I was in his situation.

 

So, having danced around a million houses to get here, you're actually *telling us* (as a fact) that Koeman has said to Boruc that there's no hope of him getting his place back?

Are we clear on that? Do I have that right?

 

Totally agree with all of this.

Doesn't mean I think any of the social media stuff is necessary. But frustration comes out us all in difference ways

 

I suspect Boruc has been told Koeman expects him to be back up to Forster. That seems to like Koeman. Very direct and honest. However, I doubt he said "You won't play even if Forster is ****!"